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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
To sort it out might take a level of expertise possessed by few users, including myself. Off hand, I can think of only one user that seems to have a good grasp of all things studio and that I trust his knowledge. I know about studios but no where near his level. To be honest, to me some users seem less concerned about studio knowledge and more about some personal agenda. And you also have a Master's Degree about studios outside Hollywood? Once again there is life outside US. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I am very curious about this subject and what suggestions might come forward. A studio clt is already a possible | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quoting Winston Smith:
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To sort it out might take a level of expertise possessed by few users, including myself. Off hand, I can think of only one user that seems to have a good grasp of all things studio and that I trust his knowledge. I know about studios but no where near his level. To be honest, to me some users seem less concerned about studio knowledge and more about some personal agenda.
And you also have a Master's Degree about studios outside Hollywood? Once again there is life outside it  US. Really Kulju, based on your repeated insulting, asinine and non productive comments I find that suspect. Beam me up Scotty. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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  | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Why do I say that, because I can remember a time when people would actually list Turner Entertainment a studio for films like The Wizard of Oz which is utter nonsense, they own the film and that is all. Oz was filmed long before TE ever existed. Indeed, such companies belong in the Media Company field. Turner Entertainment has nothing to do with the production and theatrical release of The Wizard of Oz during first release. Like some Hitchcock re-releases of Universal. Universal just cut the Paramount opening and replaced it by a Universal logo. Universal had nothing to do with the first theatrical release/production of the Hitchcock Paramount films. And so on. In some cases listing the studios as credited won't suffice. Further research will be needed and documented! I think the Studio field needs to be extended into a 'credited as' structure to solve this issue. | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | A clt for studios is already on the table, Devon. But even that won't help for the type of problem presented by Hitchcock. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | In your Turner Entertainment example, Skip, wouldn't that qualify as what the rules call a "Licensor" for the Media Company field? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
Please don't put words in my mouth I have never used. I have never advocated standardizing Studio names. All I have said is that studios should not always be entered "as credited". I did not put any words in your mouth, I simply made a statement concerning what the rules say vs the topic of this thread. While it was in response to your post, it wasn't meant to imply that you made that statement. Sorry if it came across that way.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
Indeed, such companies belong in the Media Company field. Turner Entertainment has nothing to do with the production and theatrical release of The Wizard of Oz during first release. Like some Hitchcock re-releases of Universal. Universal just cut the Paramount opening and replaced it by a Universal logo. Universal had nothing to do with the first theatrical release/production of the Hitchcock Paramount films. And so on. In some cases listing the studios as credited won't suffice. Further research will be needed and documented! Indeed...which is why the rules allow for discussion of what is and isn't correct. Though I still don't believe they allow for standardized names. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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Please don't put words in my mouth I have never used. I have never advocated standardizing Studio names. All I have said is that studios should not always be entered "as credited".
I did not put any words in your mouth, I simply made a statement concerning what the rules say vs the topic of this thread. While it was in response to your post, it wasn't meant to imply that you made that statement. Sorry if it came across that way. No harm done!  |
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
In your Turner Entertainment example, Skip, wouldn't that qualify as what the rules call a "Licensor" for the Media Company field? I think Skip was referring solely to the Studio field. The media company field is indeed for licensors, distributors etc. Turner Entertainment is a little bit tricky because it's sometimes the licensor for the extra features only. Turner Entertainment does own the rights for nearly all pre-1986 MGM films, so in those cases it's save to say that Turner Entertainment is the licensor (and it's on the cover). | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Indeed Devon. Deejay please read more carefully what I say. I said I can remember a time, which is true and referred to pre media company days which I believe you are aware of as well. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | My question was just to make sure we're on the same page, Skip. I did understand you were talking about Studios (and fully share your view). |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Cool deejay | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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