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UPC 7312230402145 being reused, and how to work around that?
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Often the shrink wrap has a different UPC number covering the one on the DVD case - usually if it is on sale.


Often? I've never seen it on a Swedish DVD before. But I've seen it on US/Canadian covers that I've ordered online. Sometimes you'll find both these (with and without) stickers in the database.


I'll agree with Kathy here. You are lucky, but it does happen quite a bit in the States in my experience.
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Happens in the UK a lot also but I think that's retailers doing it tbh.
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IMO, if the sticker is stuck to the actual case (and NOT the shrinkwrap) and the sticker is a distributor sticker then yes, there is a solid argument (not that I agree with it) but even if that was allowed the old one still shouldn't be removed or changed as that was how it was originally released, even if it was done accidentally... instead, it would be a seperate profile (again, just my opinion).


I would agree with this.  A UPC sticker under the shrinkwrap is a different animal from a UPC sticker on the shrinkwrap.
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Slightly off topic, but related question.  Does anyone know why some DVDs have a UPC sticker over the UPC when they are the exactly same number?  I've encountered this quite often and has always left me scratching my head.
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IMO, if the sticker is stuck to the actual case (and NOT the shrinkwrap) and the sticker is a distributor sticker then yes, there is a solid argument (not that I agree with it) but even if that was allowed the old one still shouldn't be removed or changed as that was how it was originally released, even if it was done accidentally... instead, it would be a seperate profile (again, just my opinion).


I would agree with this.  A UPC sticker under the shrinkwrap is a different animal from a UPC sticker on the shrinkwrap.

I would agree as well.
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Although it would be more convenient for these one-off mistake printings, I don't want to open the can of worms that would make stickered UPCs an official alternate entry ID.  In this case, if the printing is an error perhaps the distributor will correct it in subsequent runs.  In the mean time, disc ID is the suggested entry method.


But the distributor has corrected it. They are just too cheap to order a re-print.

I don't know that I would call them too cheap, Kino, a reprint cover would probably add several thousand dollars to their costs, depending on how many were printed...and they are in it for a profit after all. There was a time when GM would kill for .0025 cents per car.

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Often the shrink wrap has a different UPC number covering the one on the DVD case - usually if it is on sale.


Often? I've never seen it on a Swedish DVD before. But I've seen it on US/Canadian covers that I've ordered online. Sometimes you'll find both these (with and without) stickers in the database.



I don't know the exact numbers, because I don't keep track, but it happens a lot when you get them on sale. Most of my DVDs are US so I can't speak about other countries' DVDs.

I have wondered why they do this too; I thought it was just how businesses keep track of inventory.
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Sometimes you are correct, Cathy. In thios case I doubt it. Sometimes businesses do plaster their own UPC over the actual, for whatever reasons tthey have. In this case however and in most I am aware of this IS a UPC that is put on by the distributor, the secret is in the UPC code that is used, the title is not the only thing that uses the UPC, each and every Distributor has it's own part of the code, for example all Paramount Titles in R1 beguin 09736X, the X in their case is something that use to identify which part of their catalog they are dealing with (I haven't figured out exactly how they use it) but 097360, 097361, 097363 and 097368 are Paramount numbers that have turned up over the years.

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IMO, if the sticker is stuck to the actual case (and NOT the shrinkwrap) and the sticker is a distributor sticker then yes, there is a solid argument (not that I agree with it) but even if that was allowed the old one still shouldn't be removed or changed as that was how it was originally released, even if it was done accidentally... instead, it would be a seperate profile (again, just my opinion).


Think also this is different so I can agree to this, too.
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If the sticker is inside the shrinkwrap, I would have no problem accepting it as an alternate UPC.  However, if that conflicts with a different release now or in the future, it will likely be overwritten.
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If the sticker is inside the shrinkwrap, I would have no problem accepting it as an alternate UPC.  However, if that conflicts with a different release now or in the future, it will likely be overwritten.


Well, I have been through my trash and no sticker on the shrinkwrap (and none inside), looks like they were to cheap to even put stickers on all of them 

But I now have email from both the distributor and the rights holder that the intended UPC is 7312230505945. The former says there should be a sticker on the cover and the latter saying that I should talk to the retailer for possible return and replacement. So unless someone beats me to it there will be a submission for that UPC with proper notes and quotes. But not tonight...

And all the better if someone manages to get a proper back cover from a later rerelease and submits that, but I suspect that wont happen. As Skip said, it is all about the money...

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If the sticker is inside the shrinkwrap, I would have no problem accepting it as an alternate UPC.  However, if that conflicts with a different release now or in the future, it will likely be overwritten.


Both sounds logical and I think this is a very good solution.
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Agreed.
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There was a time when GM would kill for .0025 cents per car.

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Sorry to revive a really old thread, but it seemed like the best place to ask the question. What if there is a UPC sticker on the outside of the shrinkwrap, that creates a new version (release) of an old disc. For instance, the Universal 100th Anniversary releases on DVD. Most of the actual DVD's are previous releases (but not all) but a digital copy has been added (as well as the Universal 100th Anniversary slipcover), creating a new release (re-release?) of an existing DVD. Here is an example: Scarface: Universal Cinema Classics is already in the database with UPC 025195004473. Universal took existing shrinkwrapped discs, added the digital code pamphlet on the back and re-shrinkwrapped it and applied a new UPC sticker 025192147579 and the 100th Ann. slip. Some people throw away slips ( ) and after removing the two shrinkwraps, you would be left with the version in the database.

Doing a search, I saw that the Universal and Paramount 100th slips were discussed, and one user said you would use the UPC on the shrinkwrap, and in the collected contribution notes of Ken, it looks like he would probably agree, but I just wanted to make sure before I made any contributions. A lot of these aren't in the database yet; most of the Blu-ray versions are, but not too many of the DVD versions.
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If you can remove the UPC sticker from the shrinkwrap without it ripping or tearing or smudging, and apply it over the other UPC, I would have no problem with that. I have several store-exclusive titles that have their own UPC's and have done the same thing.
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