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Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: Alien:
Excuse me but it was the collector's like myself that made DVD the fastest growing electronic film medium in history. That growth has not flattened or predictably taken a bit of a downturn. The Blu-Ray take off was slow largely duue to that particular fact, the Studios have figured out how to rope us in now, that however does not mean that most of us will now tajke verything to BD, in fact, I consider that highly unlikely. My BD growth will now accelerate and DVD growth will slow, but i don't foresee it stopping altogether. Hollywood would have to convince me that many of my old films and TV series would actually benefit from transfer to BD, possible but I haven't been persuaded yet, and I don't believe I am alone in that skepticism. Time will tell. As for downloading, for collecting I still don't see this as an economically viable solution, it would cost an awful lot of money to provide sufficient storage for my collection + backup files, unless I chose to make my discs my backup, not likely as a sole backup. But in this business, who knows what the future holds...certainly not I.
Skip Streaming and downloads are the way of the future, like it or not. There's history to support this. I have an ebook reader, and I hear people tell me that they won't last. Well, the fact that ebooks outsold actual books on Christmas day at Amazon is a reflection that, yeah, they very well will. Electronic media is the way of the future. CDs and mp3s are a good example of this. Do I like it? Not necessarily, but you can't ignore that it's happening. Collectors didn't make DVD the fastest growing medium. They helped, sure, but it was the general public that made DVD what it is today. Not the small percentage of people who buy mass amounts of DVDs.. If DVD strictly relied on the collector's market, DVD would have been another laser disc player. But once DVD players became affordable (something LD never really did), the benefits to owning one greatly outweighed not. Couple that with Netflix and, later on, Redbox, the conveniences of a DVD player went through the roof. Now, with streaming getting better and better and technology such as the Ryko box, On Demand and even blu-ray's streaming capabilities, physical media will eventually become a thing of the past for the majority of people. Will this happen overnight? Of course not. But it will happen. I can't speculate when, it could take a couple of decades, but you eventually won't see the rows and rows of movies at your local best buy. I will say this about Blu-ray: It very well could be the last chapter in that part of technology. Not because of what it offers, but rather of what is around the corner. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Plenty of things were touted as the wave of the future and never caught on. Keep in mind the market is very small, almost non-existent for ownership and not growing very fast. The big figures touted are 80% pay-per view and such on digital cable. Unless studios can get people to give up on owning anything, find a way to cut out retailers, either offer special features on downloads or get people to accept their absence and put all download/streaming on a single platform or at least give people a single access point, overcome bandwidth/broadband penetration issues and either make streaming video look better or get people to stop caring, it won't be good for anything except a replacement for rentals. Even then, it won't get far unless prices come down.
I can rent a physical copy of pretty much any movie for a day for $1 or $2 at a place less than two miles from my house. Paying $4 for an online rental that won't look as good and can't be taken to my friend's house doesn't appeal to me. |
| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Oh, I agree. Right now it's not the end all be all, by any stretch, but it's also in its relative infancy. I pay $7 (or 8) a month for unlimited Netflix streaming and I love it... for old TV shows and documentaries. Is it going to replace me buying The Descent on Blu? Hell no.
But that's right now. I can easily see some sort of ondemand owned catalog in the future, where, say, Sony stores all of its titles on a server and you can either rent or buy. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,436 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote: Only if I get a local copy that I can watch when I want how often I want - just like with a real disc. This. | | | Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan. Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative) |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote: You have no clue... no clue at all. lol well i have a clue about DON'T invest money in hairdressing. |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote: Oh, I agree. Right now it's not the end all be all, by any stretch, but it's also in its relative infancy. I pay $7 (or 8) a month for unlimited Netflix streaming and I love it... for old TV shows and documentaries. Is it going to replace me buying The Descent on Blu? Hell no.
But that's right now. I can easily see some sort of ondemand owned catalog in the future, where, say, Sony stores all of its titles on a server and you can either rent or buy. So when you buy this where you going to store it? |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote: The only people who are still hording discs are people like us, users of disc cataloging software. People like us... Probably like you and several other users here, but not all of us. I do not catalog discs, nor DVDs, nor blu-rays. I collect movies, that I want to be able to watch when I want, stopping when I want, looking at a particular scene when I want, analysing a scene on slow motion when I want, and all this with the best quality possible, that means on a large screen with good audio devices. As for now, downloadable stuff or VOD do not allow to do that, has many restrictions, and that's why I'm not at all interested by what is actually proposed. | | | Images from movies |
| Registered: October 6, 2008 | Posts: 1,932 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote: Quoting FilmAlba:
Quote: Blu-ray has vitrualy has helped the studios a lot in this recession. Unlike some thought (cough Sam) ... TAXES, you know those things I pay so you can be unemployed? ... But don't forget, he's going to collage. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,380 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting jgilligan: Quote: The big problem I have with getting a movie online is the whole DRM issue.
If I have to count on a company and a server to be up for me to be able to view the movie I purchased, then no thanks. I will either stick with real media, or not purchasing. To much risk in losing access to something I own.
But, if we are talking about rentals, like Netflix, then I see downloads as a very viable alternative. I can count on a company or server to be up for a few days. This. I wouldnt buy timebomb software/movies/music. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 171 |
| Posted: | | | | I think much of the VOD and Streaming hype is coming from the studios. They don't get a cut of the resale of physical media, so DVD/ BD are a one-time source of income. The electronic delivery methods give them the opportunity to sell (rent) the same content to an individual multiple times.
This move is not necessarily in the best interest of the consumer. Sure, the casual users who rarely (or never) purchase movies will probably never see the impact of this. For them, electronic delivery will make some things easier. e.g. No trips to Blockbuster in the nasty winter weather.
For people who want to own a movie and watch it many times, this will potentially cause them significant problems. DRM alone can become a problem. Transportability is another issue. What about video systems in vehicles? Many parents purchase childrens titles to 'babysit' their kids. Plug in the move and keep them quiet. How many children have watched a Disney title 100+ times?
Until something is done to ensure 'ownership' or at least perpetual license to view the movie, there will be a problem with streaming or online content. |
| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,463 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm the kind of person that doesn't see choices as mutually exclusive - well, I guess some really are. But in terms of media, I want and do have it "all." I buy DVDs and BD, download trailers, stream movies from Netflix, etc. What I use depends on my mood and location. My Netflix subscription allows me to enjoy a movie on the train, for example, without carrying around physical media (yes my 3G cellphobne modem is fast enough - works great). I use profiler for it all. I have an icon in LoadDVD Pro for each media type, and I just bring up the movie and click on the Youtube trailer, the physical disk, or the Netflix link, and it just plays in a window , while I am browsing the Cast/Crew gallery and watching a slideshow of my favorite actresses from the film. Of course at other times, nothing beats popping in a BD in the player and rolling down the big screen in my AV room and watching a nice movie in good sound with the family. I WANT IT ALL, MAN!!!! | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote: Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote: Oh, I agree. Right now it's not the end all be all, by any stretch, but it's also in its relative infancy. I pay $7 (or 8) a month for unlimited Netflix streaming and I love it... for old TV shows and documentaries. Is it going to replace me buying The Descent on Blu? Hell no.
But that's right now. I can easily see some sort of ondemand owned catalog in the future, where, say, Sony stores all of its titles on a server and you can either rent or buy.
So when you buy this where you going to store it? It could be an option that Sony stores it on their server, and you log in to watch it. Or, you store it at home. FYI, storage isn't going to be an issue in the future. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote: Quoting FilmAlba:
Quote: Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote: Oh, I agree. Right now it's not the end all be all, by any stretch, but it's also in its relative infancy. I pay $7 (or 8) a month for unlimited Netflix streaming and I love it... for old TV shows and documentaries. Is it going to replace me buying The Descent on Blu? Hell no.
But that's right now. I can easily see some sort of ondemand owned catalog in the future, where, say, Sony stores all of its titles on a server and you can either rent or buy.
So when you buy this where you going to store it?
It could be an option that Sony stores it on their server, and you log in to watch it.
Or, you store it at home. FYI, storage isn't going to be an issue in the future. Yeah in the future which is like 10 years or more. Be like the size of a boiler or smaller sitting in a cupboard you can hook up any computer to it wireless or wired. |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CalebAndCo: Quote: Quoting samuelrichardscott:
Quote: Quoting FilmAlba:
Quote: Blu-ray has vitrualy has helped the studios a lot in this recession. Unlike some thought (cough Sam) ... TAXES, you know those things I pay so you can be unemployed? ... But don't forget, he's going to collage. Besides the mental aspect of working a low paid job because im highly vulnerable to server depression anxiety and stress. I had done my lower back in as well and worked on an injury for 3 weeks cause i did not want to take the sick. In that time i have been looking for work of less physical nature but has been fruitless despite working with organisations that are suppose to help you get off the incapacity benefit. So the only option left to me was sit on my ar$e or try to get into college again. | | | Last edited: by ShinyDiscGuy |
| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote: Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote: Quoting FilmAlba:
Quote: Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote: Oh, I agree. Right now it's not the end all be all, by any stretch, but it's also in its relative infancy. I pay $7 (or 8) a month for unlimited Netflix streaming and I love it... for old TV shows and documentaries. Is it going to replace me buying The Descent on Blu? Hell no.
But that's right now. I can easily see some sort of ondemand owned catalog in the future, where, say, Sony stores all of its titles on a server and you can either rent or buy.
So when you buy this where you going to store it?
It could be an option that Sony stores it on their server, and you log in to watch it.
Or, you store it at home. FYI, storage isn't going to be an issue in the future.
Yeah in the future which is like 10 years or more. Be like the size of a boiler or smaller sitting in a cupboard you can hook up any computer to it wireless or wired. Not even 10 years. You'll be seeing petrabyte drives for home use on the shelves within 2 years. By then, terabyte drives will be the norm, and in even a more portable form then they are now. Hell, you can get 64gb USB sticks now. Storage is absolute last thing that will be a problem. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote: You'll be seeing petrabyte drives for home use on the shelves within 2 years. The common spelling is "petabyte" and the estimated production time line is 2 to 5 years. See HERE. And 1024 petabytes is an exabyte; 1024 exabytes is a zettabyte; 1024 zettabytes is a yottabyte (1 trillion terabytes or a quadrillion gigabytes or a quintillion megabytes or a sextillion bytes [1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000] or 8 sextillion bits). So when we get our first 1 yottabyte hard drive? | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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