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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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So I would say something like the above with a way to see what other profiles each name is listed in.

Agreed. There needs to be some sort of unique identifier, and then when you're entering a new "John Doe" credit, the prorgram should ask you: do you mean the John Doe that acted in film X, film Y and film Z, the John Doe that acted in film A, film B and film C, or the John Doe that was the production sound mixer on film D, film E and film F? Something like that.
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yup... something like that is what I was thinking.
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The same sort of thing needs to be done for "credited as," to pop up if you add someone who has a different name that has been credited the way you entered.  Otherwise there's no way to keep track of who is actually credited in different ways and to get them properly linked together.
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I don't know... I think any official information to be added (birth year... middle initial... and so on) would be all the same problem... it would be information that is hard to find for the majority that it is needed for. I would say we need to find something similar to what imdb does... either find a way to number them or letter them

That's one (of many) things that imdb has done correctly...and I know that some people here like to bash imdb for a sport, but to be honest...DVDP implementation with BY's sucks.
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Perhaps when something like this goes into effect we can have a pinned topic with screencaps and/or stills of the different actors that share the same name.
That would really help to identify actors from each other, especially for those that maybe lesser known.


I really like the idea that T!m posted about the program asking you which actor you mean to credit.
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Cubby:

Actually as envision the Simple Association method, that is very much what the program would do. Obviously, once an association was made the question becomes moot, but hopefully the program could detect a possible variant and ask if you wanted to make an association. This, I think could be extended to BY as well.

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Sounds nice, but difficult to implement I think.

At the moment, when you make a new entry for cast/crew, it gets compared to your local database, which is fast. If it needs to be compared to the online, that needs to be downloaded, and as we see from adding a new DVD, that takes a lot of time.
See for example how long it takes to update after unchecking "Blu-Ray" when adding a DVD. That is not such a big problem, since you don't use that so much even if you buy new DVDs daily. But when adding hundreds of cast for a TV-series, this becomes prohibitive.
A check could then only be made when uploading the profile, and I don't think that is what was intended in this thread.
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OK, now I'm confused. I tried to add BY for Steven Williams 1949 who plays in several X-files episodes. They all got declined right away with note "Please use birth years only to distinguish between otherwise identical cast and crew. New birth year submissions must be documented".

My notes were:
"- Rating corrected using new rating category. Source: covers
- Birth Year for Steven Williams (1949) from "List of Accepted Birth Years with Documentation" in Invelos forum"

Documentation can be found from that thread: link

What did I do wrong? Is that thread useless for now on?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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See Ken's comment from earlier in this thread. I haven't sorted it out yet, but that would appear to be a factor, kulju. I would try copying over the details of the Documentation, not juts provide a link.

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Locally I've already had to give a couple porn actors fake middle names or made-up BY's as I couldn't find BY's for them or their mainstream dopplenamers. I'd be down with the 1 and 2 or a and b differenciators. Thankfully most of my porn is custom so I never submit them anyway, but most exist on real dvds that someone has to have.
We need something for this where info can't be found but I can't think of anything not already mentioned in this thread.
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I had three birth years approved with the only documentation a link to the relevant post in the birth year thread. So that shouldn't be the problem Kulju

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It sounds like you have to have the BY for both actors before the contribution will be accepted.

@ reybr, did the actors you contributed have BYs for the other namesakes listed as well?  That might confirm my suspicion.
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No. For two of the "pairs", I had birth years for both, but for the third, I had birth year only for one of the actors

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Then I am quite confused. 
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It sounds like you have to have the BY for both actors before the contribution will be accepted.


Then all I can say for Invelos is good luck for finding contributors.... It is impossible to find BY's for some people. This change just made a bad system even worse   
I'm all about the rules, but that requirement is just way too much = in many cases impossible. I'm very close to join several others who think it's just impossible to contribute anymore.
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