Quoting Vermont-Pride:

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I've been a paid subscriber here for a number of years and have experienced periods when profiles are accepted though faulty as well as declined when profiles are 99 to 100% accurate.

As most people (who have contributed profiles) know it requires a lot of time and effort to gain the correct information to fill any given movie profile.  I know I've spent hours on just one profile.

I don't see any reason to spend all that time and effort just to get your contribution rejected without reason.  I honestly think there are certain members who have a high rating for contributions and they vote others a negative only to steal the info others tried to share and then submit the same profile as theirs.  I have been studying this carefully with my own contributions and those of others that have been rejected and always see the exact same profile accepted and the contributor acknowledged is never any of the ones that first contributed it.

I say to stop contributing and let the ones who get accepted work like we do and not steal our submissions.

Didn't you consider a different possibility? Think of the following scenario:
1- Some No voters found something that was actually wrong or not documented in the contribution.
2- The original contributor did not accept to resubmit with corrections.
3- The Screeners rejected the profile, because of important mistakes or lack of documentation pointed out by the No voters.
4- Since the original contributor didn't seem willful to contribute the correct / documented data, one of the No voters later submitted it.

That is exactly why I say, one piece of bad data is enough to throw it out. If we are going to make value judgments we encourage laziness in users, including the voters, There is a profile up for review right now that has one No vote, the cast data was copied from another Profile (no verification against actual data) and it is WRONG, but there are people voting Yes, I have no doubt based on the something is better than nothing premise. When a user refuses to fix a problem, it says an awful lot about that user. to me at any rate.

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I just want to say that I recently just added a disc id, and only a disc id, to a profile and contributed it.

Most of the other info was filled in but I didn't check anything else. I didn't (and still don't) feel at all bad because this is a blu-ray disc and since it was the only blu-ray I had without disc info I figured I'd just go and add it because maybe no one else that has the title has a blu-ray drive. Since this was 2 days ago and it still only has 4 votes I was probably correct that I may be the only contributor that has a blu-ray drive in my computer

So just saying, there are reasons to only contribute one little field and not even look at other's to see if they need updating.

-Agrare

Quoting Ken Cole:

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The Invelos evaluators' standing policy is to accept profiles that add significant value.  They do not have to be complete, nor even completely accurate.  If you're submitting 50 painstakingly correct cast entries but get the production year wrong, the profile should be accepted and corrected later.

Quoting Dr Pavlov:

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That is exactly why I say, one piece of bad data is enough to throw it out.

Obviously Ken disagrees with you.


On the note of supposed 'plagarism'.  What the hell???!!!

None of us OWN the data we submit. It's all taken from the disc/box etc. So who cares who submits it as long as it ends up in the database???

A while ago I was doing an update on Wall-E. Someone else had also submitted a profile. However their profile was full of errors and missing information....but they were adding an Easter Egg I had failed to discover.
So, I copied their Easter Egg information into my profile and resubmitted.

Boy did the other person get bent out of shape about that!!! It was ridiculous. I was doing a full audit of the title - they were refusing to correct their profile despite a PM stating the mistakes so I took their EE info to make sure my profile was as complete as possible.

As it stands there profile was accepted and then overwritten by mine the following update.

So really - who cares who submits the data as long as it's correct?

Another example:
Some of you may remember some months ago there was a whole 'todo' over a submission I did to the R1 Bewitched Season 2 child profiles where I refused to add Agnes Moorehead to the cast in a couple of episodes because she wasn't credited.
The profile was declined due to no votes. (I then submitted them to the correct locality...I had them wrong initially....and they were accepted)

A very short time later someone copied my work and resubmitted it to the US locality. Not only did they not get NO votes but the profiles went through.

I didn't get bent out of shape because someone stole my work - I was more annoyed that the forum gods who gave me such a hard time had no problem with someone else submitting the work (or at least that's how it felt).
But, once again - who really cares as long as the data goes through!!!

So - to all you people who think having your name on a profile is a good thing....ONLY if you get the data right!!! Otherwise all it does is highlight whose contributions should not be trusted!

I don't know about anyone's contributions being "stolen," but I've CERTAINLY had completely legit submissions get turned down for no good reason (in many cases, the titles are STILL not fixed in DVDP). It seems to me that some people take it upon themselves to vote on profile submissions for reasons OTHER than a desire to make the database as accurate as possible. And that's a problem.