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Kelly Collins Lintz parsing
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Just my 2 cents, but considering the fact that this actress is also credited as Kelly Collins & Kelly Collins-Lintz, suggests to me that Collins Lintz is in fact a double-barreled last name. Of course, this is just my opinion and we all know what they say about opinions .
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Just my 2 cents, but considering the fact that this actress is also credited as Kelly Collins & Kelly Collins-Lintz, suggests to me that Collins Lintz is in fact a double-barreled last name.

I haven't looked into this particular example yet, other than a quick check on how I have her parsed currently, but if this is true, I might very well be be included to parse her as Kelly//Collins Lintz. 
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Just my 2 cents, but considering the fact that this actress is also credited as Kelly Collins & Kelly Collins-Lintz, suggests to me that Collins Lintz is in fact a double-barreled last name. Of course, this is just my opinion and we all know what they say about opinions .


First 8Ball, IF her maiden name is Collins, that is no guarantee without a hyphen that it IS factually a double barrelled name, that IS an assumption on your part. See my earlier comments about this topic. And it is an assumption which has been, if not disproven, at least diminished in likelihood by the evidence provided by Eagle.

Without a hypenated name we cannot ASSUME that a name is factually double barrelled, especially when dealing with American personnel, there is a high probability that such an assumption will be
wrong.

Tim, the ACADEMY evidence provided by Eagle which you eveidently did not bother to look at totally dismisses your joke for what it is...ridiculous.

But let me help you
Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences

That form of name handling has specific meaning at least here in the states.

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But let me help you
Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences

That form of name handling has specific meaning at least here in the states.

For the record, Skip, that site is totally worthless for parsing issues. Look at this, for instance. Agree with that, too? 
Same "specific meaning" you were talking about? Or is it suddenly not so trustworthy anymore?
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We always over-complicate these issues.

1. There are no official rules for parsing in The Rules
2.  Kelly//Collins Lintz is the current accepted form in the profile
3.  All changes to profiles must be documented

This change was not documented, therefore, a "No" vote is entirely appropriate.

Everything else in this thread is just a lot of background noise.
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But let me help you
Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences

That form of name handling has specific meaning at least here in the states.

For the record, Skip, that site is totally worthless for parsing issues. Look at this, for instance. Agree with that, too? 
Same "specific meaning" you were talking about? Or is it suddenly not so trustworthy anymore?

AND if you reacl during our discussion about HBC I alluded to exactly that possibility. Names are very personal things and you, not being that person, cannot  come to any accurate conclusions about how they wish to handle the name, short of SOME potential visual clues clues such as a HYPHEn. When the hyphen has been dropped it is entirely possible that the individual has also made a change in how they handle their name. you say the academy is wrong, I say the acadeny is far more likely to be correct than YOU.

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We always over-complicate these issues.

1. There are no official rules for parsing in The Rules
2.  Kelly//Collins Lintz is the current accepted form in the profile
3.  All changes to profiles must be documented

This change was not documented, therefore, a "No" vote is entirely appropriate.

Everything else in this thread is just a lot of background noise.


ROFL, are you including yourself.

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We always over-complicate these issues.

1. There are no official rules for parsing in The Rules
2.  Kelly//Collins Lintz is the current accepted form in the profile
3.  All changes to profiles must be documented

This change was not documented, therefore, a "No" vote is entirely appropriate.

Everything else in this thread is just a lot of background noise.


ROFL, are you including yourself.

Ski


  That makes no sense. He only posted once in this thread and only stated the facts of the matter...



this post on the other hand does absolutely nothing to add to the discussion and is 100% background noise.   
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Like yours, Rick

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AND if you reacl during our discussion about HBC I alluded to exactly that possibility. Names are very personal things and you, not being that person, cannot  come to any accurate conclusions about how they wish to handle the name, short of SOME potential visual clues clues such as a HYPHEn. When the hyphen has been dropped it is entirely possible that the individual has also made a change in how they handle their name. you say the academy is wrong, I say the acadeny is far more likely to be correct than YOU.

So you're back at H/B/C now? Or H//B C for some of her credits, and H/B/C for others? Yeah, that'll work. Good luck with that - I'll stick with the previously agreed-upon H//B C.

In general, I'd say that if "the individual" can indeed at any point in time make "a change in how they handle their name", then we simply cannot track that - and neither should we want to. If you're seriously arguing that how a person's name should be parsed may change over time, then a single name field is the only solution left...
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I am not only making that argument i can factually back it up based upon my own family, Tim, which i have done before. As I said a name is a very personal thing and the ONLY person that is going to KNOW the answer is the person involved. In the case of H/B/C IF you recall the evidence that clinched it wsa the finding of 3 separate credits H B-C, HBC, and HB-C in that order. And I said at the time, that while it is POSSIBLE that the actress had actually changed her name back and fort, I considered it highly IMPROBABLE and that the name was H B-C. We have no such evidence in this particular instance, we do have evidence which supports the 1/2/3 approach, and using HBC is simply a red herring that has no relevance to this actress, except maybe 6 Degrees of separation.

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I'm getting a headache just trying to read your post, Skip, I'm really not engaging in the whole Helena Bonham Carter debate again: you'll have to do that with someone else. All I was noting is that we have NO standard for parsing whatsoever, and that we desperately need something in that department (eliminate one or two name fields, change the field names, set a 'hard standard' in the rules - I'll take anything), to be able to cut down on all those pointless double entries for basically every three-piece name out there.

By saying that any individual can indeed at any point in time make a change in how they handle their name as far as parsing is concerned, you've perfectly illustrated for me that your method fails miserably. And the fact that after all this time you're now still unsure about the "correct" parsing for Helena Bonham Carter only further cements my feelings. So again, I'll leave you to it, and I trust that Ken will address the whole parsing mess at some point in the future. Until then, everybody will basically do as he pleases.
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As I said I simply want to make it simple and EASY to do. You want to complicate it.

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Just curious if she's the same Kelly Collins that's Bo Derek's younger sister.
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