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Wow, this seems to be a really hot topic.  While I think there are a few genres that should be added, such as an exercise genre for my workout DVD's, I agree with Skip, we don't need 100 genres to make our point.  Look at how nitpicky it becomes; Horror, Vampires, Cults, Lions and Tigers and Bears.  Next we'll differentiate between adult and porn or cartoons and cartoons not fit for children.

And here you have the exact reason why I don't contribute anymore and don't care about the database. Adult doesn't equal pornography, the genre "adult" doesn't exist and means absolutly nothing. Not the first time that I say that, but it's always a lost of my time to discuss this.

Although I agree with you that "Adult" is not a genre, rather a classification, IMO that's a petty reason for no longer contributing to or caring about the database .

I agree.

Skip

Who cares? Exactly what's your reason for not contributing anymore Skip? I'm sure other users would find that equally petty!
If AESP no longer wants to contribute, that's their choice and none of us have the right to criticise that decision. If you'd bothered to notice AESP's collection contains a lot of material that could be classed as adult. I'm sure it's very infuriating to have all these titles lumped under the "adult" genre when there are vast differences in the content of these titles.

Back on topic, I don't want to see the program overloaded with different genres, but we only have 20-odd at the minute. I'm sure there's plenty of room for quite a few more genres in there, including "surreal" as it doesn't fit easily under any other category.
PS. I also agree with AESP, adult is not a genre and should be removed. If Ken wants us to mark pornographic titles, give us a checkbox!

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Who cares? Exactly what's your reason for not contributing anymore Skip? I'm sure other users would find that equally petty!
If AESP no longer wants to contribute, that's their choice and none of us have the right to criticise that decision. If you'd bothered to notice AESP's collection contains a lot of material that could be classed as adult. I'm sure it's very infuriating to have all these titles lumped under the "adult" genre when there are vast differences in the content of these titles.

Thanks 
Yes I find it insulting to see that what I'm proud to collect is considerate at the same level than a Max Hardcore or an Evil Angel production. I'll wait for the release of the presently tested beta and the adjusment to phpdvdprofiler for it, at least the custom genre look like a temporary solution to this problem.

I agree: adult is not a genre and should be deleted. Maybe (and i say maybe) Erotic should be more appropriate, if used wisely.
Anyway, it seems to me that Skip and few others misses the point: when i've opened the thread to propose Surreal as a genre to add i was speaking of a "Main-Genre" not a "Sub-genre".
I can imagine that not many users have a collection full of "Surreal" movies, but rest assured that there are thousands of them that will not fit into any other category, as well as many others that should be listed as "Surreal too" as a main genre. Example: the recent Southland Tales. IS Sci-Fi, but also Musical if you like and for sure ... Surreal

OK - I'm gonna voice my opinion here - regardless of the outcome.

What I fail to understand, is that those of you who have decided not to contribute to the Database anymore, feel inclined to state so at every god damn opportunity you get!   

In my honest opinion, when you decide not to contribute anymore, you might also consider not to "contribute" in the forums quite as much? After all - the forums are for discussing DVDProfiler, and DVDProfiler is a user-built database, no? If you do not contribute data (which quite frankly is all that matters), why on earth would contributing users heed your suggestions or wishes?! I feel inclined to ignore every suggestion, be it good or bad, from users openly stating that they refuse to contribute for whatever reasons!

That being said, I really don't give a rats arse if you openly negative, critizising, flat out nagging lot contribute or not - I'm just getting tired of you stating it at every friggin' opportunity you get! 

PS: This post is not directed to anyone in particular... 

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In my honest opinion, when you decide not to contribute anymore, you might also consider not to "contribute" in the forums quite as much? After all - the forums are for discussing DVDProfiler, and DVDProfiler is a user-built database, no?

I've paid for DVDProfiler and if I want to write on the forum to make a request or give some form of techniqual help or help someone to contribute or .... (I think that you understand), I can as much of you or anybody else.

The contributors in the database are a tiny pourcentage of the software users. I don't think that the participation in the forum as anything to do with the database. I don't think that you really means that, at least I hope.

I agree with Berak to an extent on the Contribution forum as people who don't contribute may not keep up to date with how things are currently being handled. However this most certainly isn't always the case and there are some non contributors whose opinion I highly value & respect (I wont mention any names). Also it is a public forum so unless Ken decides to make it like the plugin development forum where you have to be a contributor to post there, I don't really see there being that much of a problem to anyone posting.

Feature request wise though I disagree. Just because you don't contribute to the online database doesn't mean that you don't have ideas/suggestions for improvements to the program in general.

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I agree with Berak to an extent on the Contribution forum as people who don't contribute may not keep up to date with how things are currently being handled. However this most certainly isn't always the case and there are some non contributors whose opinion I highly value & respect (I wont mention any names). Also it is a public forum so unless Ken decides to make it like the plugin development forum where you have to be a contributor to post there, I don't really see there being that much of a problem to anyone posting.

Feature request wise though I disagree. Just because you don't contribute to the online database doesn't mean that you don't have ideas/suggestions for improvements to the program in general.

I appreciate your constructive feedback to my posts, and just to clarify - I am overstating my opinions to prove my point, but the fact remains that too many "users" hide behind "Oh - I paid my 3000$ for this program, and I can do what i like" attitude.

Too build the largest, most accurate database regarding DVD's we need more than "a percentage" of users contributing data, so roll up your sleeves - swallow your "pride" and start contributing again! 

Oh and AESP; Who do I think I am? A still contributing member with no intention of stopping even if I disagree with many... Who do you think you are? Hiding behind your 30 bucks whining when backed against the wall? 

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Oh - believe me - I mean it... I don't care if we that contribute is only a small percentage. I honestly feel that it is we that contribute who should get to voice our opinions in these forums (especially the "Contribution" and "Feature request" forums) without the mindless clutter from you poor lot that has been scorned so badly that you don't want to be part of the contributing community anymore (and by that I mean you CHOOSE not to be part by not contributing to the common good).

You are nothing more than leechers, constantly complaining and using every opportunity to remind everyone that "I don't contribute anymore because this and that".

Seriously!  
If you have that many suggestions towards making the program and data better - start pulling your load!!!   

Invelos makes no requirement that one must contribute to the main database in order to either (1) use the program, or (2) post comments in any of its forums. There is no "load" assigned.

Users and use-contributors are all affected by the quality of the main database and can therefore make meaningful comments in the Contribution forum. The feature request forum has such a wide range that its topics go far beyond the contribution aspect of the program.

You may take pride in your accomplishments with the content of the database. That's fine. But there's no need to belittle others because they don't fit your paradigm.

I am not belittling anyone! I am stating my opininon regarding the growth of this database! Users may well choose not to contribute, but to consistently remind (nag) others that they have chosen to do so is just plain annoying...