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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdav4is
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Davi4is:

You don't understand. So far every one of yourt requests, besides not being anything NEW, come across like you are complaining, not requesting a feature. And this comment simply put me over the edge.

"These are what I consider to be essential features for DVDP to be a true DVD Profiler."

I won't tell you what my response really was, but it wasn't positive.

Skip


Gee, Skip. Lighten up. You'd think that I poisoned your cat or something!
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Why don't you make a manual ID for each movie on a DVD disc and hang that as a child profile in the main profile. All you have to do is download the available title from the online use the clone plugin and presto your done each disc has its separate movie profile.


If I understand you correctly, that is pretty much what I am doing: Making the disc look like a "collection", but the ID isn't set correctly (I think!).

It should be easier. That is the "why" of my request.


the disc-id is mainly for local recognition of the main profile, if you put the dvd in your computer drive the main profile should pop-up with the children in it. I think this is the easiest it can get. The movies have no ID on the disc. So at this time there is no way to recognise the media content on the dvd, as far as i know of.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorStaid S Barr
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Tell us, oh wise one, how any program you imagine can uniquely profile as separate entities, multiple titles, whether it be 3 or 30, on each side of a disc that has one UPC/EAN and one Disc ID per side? Please...I'm awaiting your answer with bated breath.


One step in that direction might be to separate disc data from movie data. One could link a disc to one or more movies as required.

(I know I am not being original here).
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Snark:

I nibbled his toes simply because ALL he has done is complain, insult the program and made VERY clear that he has not even begun exploring it yet. I did not say dividers is the perfect answer, it is not and there is no perfect answer it is what we have right NOW. Who knows we may see some form of change as we go forward in 3.5 Beta testing.

I just grew weary of his persistent complaining and found his first post in this thread to be arrogant beyond belief. He is beginning to simply sound like a troll. I have seen nothing really new in any of comments the last...NOTHING.

Skip


I didn't see any of the attitude you described in his posting.  What he's  bringing up is a known limitation of the software that many of us have identified in the past that should be addressed.  I agree with everything he initially said with the exception of collecting scene level data.  That's one step too far IMO. 

Nor should anything he is asking for particularly difficult to do programatically.  It wouldn't be UI intensive and it would be limited in scope. 

If you're happy with the way it is, that's cool.  DVDProfiler is a great app and it will continue to improve.  This is a logical step to make it more useful and would give us a lot of "bang for the buck" in terms of benefit vs. programming time.

If you disagree with what he's asking for, then by all means share your opinion.  But making it about personality doesn't contribute anything IMO and simply creates noise.  Not answers.  And let's face it Skip, you're not always user friendly.  But that doesn't make you wrong.  :-)
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSnark
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One step in that direction might be to separate disc data from movie data. One could link a disc to one or more movies as required.

(I know I am not being original here).


I think that this would be a great approach in terms of data storage, but in practice a movie isn't always the same across discs (different cuts, etc) so I don't think having "movie profiles" that could be added to multiple discs would work well. 

They would still need to be created as children of the disc, IMO for the purposes of keeping things accurate.
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You not knowing about dividers 8><


Did I say that I didn't know about dividers?

This response is way late in the game, but since the post was directed at me I thought I should respond:

Your reply to Skip when he mentioned dividers was "Please tell me about these." That response led me to believe you hadn't before heard of them. Why else would you ask him to tell you about them?

As for everything else that's been said in this thread, I tend to agree with both sides.

Yes, the important part of a new request should be the request itself and not the requestor. But also yes, the language used when making a request goes a long way towards how the community will perceive the request. Fair or not, that's just the way it is.

Yes, it would be good to be able to track individual movies on multi-movie discs. Yes, there are acceptable workarounds while Ken solves this problem.

KM
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registranttmb4016
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I should know better but ....

This is a $30 program that does a v good job of helping people with their hobby (passion) - yes, as has been pointed out it is not perfect. Why can't people take the chill pill and be happy....

It is a valid request but the tone of this request and others is very diminutive to the program. There are many posts by this user in this forum which are certainly due to lack of experience and would receive a better response if posted as a question, not a demand, in other forum areas.

It is not perfect - not sure it is the best, in all areas, but it is very good. If you hit too many problems for your circumstances then you are enttiled to not agree - so try the others !! It can't be that bad or you would not have purchased in the first place.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdav4is
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Your reply to Skip when he mentioned dividers was "Please tell me about these." That response led me to believe you hadn't before heard of them.


An incorrect assumption. Assume nothing! 

I simply wanted to get it on the record, so to speak, how dividers supposedly solved the problem. Which I could then refute -- which I think I did.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkdh1949
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I must agree with Skip and tmb016 and a few others about the attitude expressed by the original poster.  Yes, he has made some valid suggestions.  But many of his suggestions show that he isn't all that familiar about the existing capabilities of the program yet.  Until you know the program you can't know it even needs to be "fixed."

I know it's a personal quirk of mine, but frankly I resent someone who has only used this program for a few days -- and can't possibly have become fully familiar with everything that can be done with it as is -- making dozens of suggestions about ways to "improve" it.  It reminds me of the person who joins a club and then immediately begins to talk about ways to change it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdav4is
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There are many posts by this user in this forum which are certainly due to lack of experience 8><


Name two, please. In this forum.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkdh1949
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An incorrect assumption. Assume nothing! 

I simply wanted to get it on the record, so to speak, how dividers supposedly solved the problem. Which I could then refute -- which I think I did.

And some of us don't think you refuted anything.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdav4is
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I must agree with Skip and tmb016 and a few others about the attitude expressed by the original poster.  Yes, he has made some valid suggestions.  But many of his suggestions show that he isn't all that familiar about the existing capabilities of the program yet.  Until you know the program you can't know it even needs to be "fixed."

I know it's a personal quirk of mine, but frankly I resent someone who has only used this program for a few days -- and can't possibly have become fully familiar with everything that can be done with it as is -- making dozens of suggestions about ways to "improve" it.  It reminds me of the person who joins a club and then immediately begins to talk about ways to change it.


Since when has 14 Feature Requests become "dozens"?
If I'm going too fast for you guys, I guess I'll have to slow down, eh? 

(And I resent that "can't possibly" crack.)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdav4is
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An incorrect assumption. Assume nothing! 

I simply wanted to get it on the record, so to speak, how dividers supposedly solved the problem. Which I could then refute -- which I think I did.

And some of us don't think you refuted anything.


You are entitled to your opinion, however wrong you may be. As am I.
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Try the chill pill !
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You see, I still have lots of titles in my collection yet to be entered, and I am encountering all these obstacles. In particular, the lack of capability to profile more than one work on each side of a disc -- when a significant number of mine have multiple works per side.


There is only an obstacle if you are unfamiliar with the program. Mutiple titles per disc side is handled through the use of dividers.


Or manual profiles which are of course a lot of work and non-contributable.
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I simply wanted to get it on the record, so to speak, how dividers supposedly solved the problem. Which I could then refute -- which I think I did.

Great. So now you're wasting people's time with questions to which you already know the answer. 

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Name two, please. In this forum.

Sure: Turning off the Splash screen and creating duplicate profiles.

Both of these can be accomplished already without any new features being coded.

KM
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