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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote: Quoting lyonsden5:
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After reading the replies and giving it some more thought I believe I was wrong and it should be 4) The One With All the XXX, edition: Friends Collection
To anyone who doesn't think so should re-visit the discussion(s) on "Walt Disney Treasures". Teeny difference with the Treasures line. The Treasures are a catch-all for all kinds of disparate material who's only common thread was that they were produced by the Walt Disney company. In that sense they're not much different than Fox Studio Classics. It's just a branding method to move a bunch of unconnected material. All of these various Friends sets are collections of episodes from the same show, be they seasons or some other grouping method. It's not like you're going to get a Green Acres episode on one of these disks or even in this line of releases. | | | Last edited: by mdnitoil |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote: Quoting DJ Doena:
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they are rather a compilation of some episodes of the series with a theme, collectable maybe but not Friends Collection see the difference in Typography:
But "Friends" is always written that way, just as "M*A*S*H" has a certain Layout. Agreed, thats why Friends is in the title and collection not. The title of those Friends dvd's is as on the cover: The One With All The Birthdays The One With All The Babies The One With All The Weddings <sigh> I have to absolutely agree with Giga, FOR CONTRIBUTION. I MIGHT do it differently in my local but for Contribution.... I also have to disagree with Rick, Where the word Edition appears on the cover escapes me, it appears to me to an invention which does not match the FACTUAL data. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Posted: | | | | You do realise that the word edition itself is not being suggested as part of the title in those cases, right? |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Nadja: Quote: You do realise that the word edition itself is not being suggested as part of the title in those cases, right? I thought that was obvious, but apparently not... |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | No i wasn't sure about that, nadja. But if that's the case, thanks
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | It's funny, the more I look at this the more I'm convinced it's number 3.
The reason I'm leaning this way is simply because of what a title is. The whole point of a title is to convey what something is. Making the title "The one with all the XXX" doesn't really tell us anything, now does it?
It seems to me that the proper titles is "Friends Collection" with a subtitle of "The one with all the XXX".
If I were to enter that into Profiler I would do "Friends Collection: The one with all the XXX". That would all go in the title field and the edition information would be left blank.
I shouldn't have to look at edition information to finally be informed that I'm looking at a collection of Friends episodes.
In my mind, this viewpoint is in line with any other number of editions that I can think of. Walt Disney Treasures. The title is Mickey in Color volume 1, the edition is Walt Disney Treasures. The title clearly identifies what you are dealing with, the edition simply shows it's branding. Same with Fox Studio Classics, Criterion Collection and even our Widescreen editions. | | | Last edited: by mdnitoil |
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| Posted: | | | | @ Skip and Giga I don't understand how you can invent a title like that. "Friends" doesn't appear anywhere on the cover except where it says "Friends Collection". I can understand the argument that "Friends Collection" may be the edition or it may be the title but I can't understand how you can simply change whet is right there on the box and say the title is just "Friends". |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote: I can understand the argument that "Friends Collection" may be the edition or it may be the title but I can't understand how you can simply change what is right there on the box and say the title is just "Friends". Ditto! |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting lyonsden5:
Quote: I can understand the argument that "Friends Collection" may be the edition or it may be the title but I can't understand how you can simply change what is right there on the box and say the title is just "Friends". Ditto! Re-ditto |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm sorry, Rick. I just got in after looking again I think i see what you are referring to so I will state what I see more precisely.
The One With All The Birthdays: Froends Collection (Edition Field)
As I said I am not pleased about it very much, but that's the way I see it and I MIGHT do it differently for my Local (not sure) but ofr Contribution...
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote: I'm sorry, Rick. I just got in after looking again I think i see what you are referring to so I will state what I see more precisely.
The One With All The Birthdays: Froends Collection (Edition Field)
As I said I am not pleased about it very much, but that's the way I see it and I MIGHT do it differently for my Local (not sure) but ofr Contribution...
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote: Where the word Edition appears on the cover escapes me, it appears to me to an invention which does not match the FACTUAL data.
Skip Since when does the word "Edition" have to appear on the cover to use the Edition field? Fox Studio Classics Criterion Collection I don't think "Edition" appears on any of those. | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Posted: | | | | Hal: Please give us all some slack and stop acting like...never mind, it's your nature. I think I made it VERY clear that I was not reading it as the field with my initial post AND my two follow-ups to it. Including when I very clearly stated The One With All The Birthdays: Froends Collection (Edition Field)I misunderstood Rick's meaning AND said so. I probably would have even made the same "mistake", thinking I was being clear. But was that enough for YOU.....NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not for Hal. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote: @ Skip and Giga
I don't understand how you can invent a title like that. I'm not inventing that: links to the review prove that. | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Reviews are not valid, we don't use them for anything, my friend. Strictly based on the data available from the cover. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote: It's funny, the more I look at this the more I'm convinced it's number 3.
The reason I'm leaning this way is simply because of what a title is. The whole point of a title is to convey what something is. Making the title "The one with all the XXX" doesn't really tell us anything, now does it?
And since when has the title been created so that it conveys anything? What I would hold locally is of course completely different from what should be contributed. But the rules don't say anything about the title being helpful for someone to find it. Anyway if they have the UPC then they can use that can't they? If they haven't.. well tough cheese really.. | | | Paul |
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