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I haven't changed my mind, this is the same position I have had from Day ONE. The only thing that SP and the others have in common is the word Supervising, the concept of the word however is entirely different, and also according to PGA has TWO different meanings (or non-meaning) depending on whether it is film or television. I have said MAYBE to Television, I am still looking at that, but Film is a definitive NO; according to the PGA SP is not even recognized despite the fact that it is used. However, people that i know in the business have advised me of its of its use in film. Frankly i was a bit surprised that film goes one way and TV goes another (and not happy about it either).

The polls also, both of them one started back at IVS by Tim, also say NO to SP

Skip

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To clarify: I've NEVER, NEVER, NEVER seen a Supervising Producer credit on a MOVIE.

Then we're back to the one that started this all: 'Short Circuit'.

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The polls also, both of them one started back at IVS by Tim, also say NO to SP

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I do not consider a 28-20 vote to be a "consensus" of any kind!

Neither do I. Although, as I stated earlier, that I agree with crediting SP as Producer, I have never done so. I don't think I've come across any that I can recall.

We can all go back and forth on this until the cows come home but ultimately the word must come from Ken. And just as with Theme By and Profiles vs Titles (CLT), Ken chooses to remain mute on these hot-button issues .

I just note that I fell it's strange that you're pleased with a result that goes against what you have claimed to be a consensus. And definitely far from the slam dunk you have claimed was the result in the past

You're welcome!

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I'm not Skip, but looking at the PGA rules, she could have moved from Produer to Supervising Producer simply by acting as a producer on the show for two years:

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Having received the credit of Producer or "Produced By" for no less than two full seasons of this or other series episodes that have been nationally telecast

She may or may not actually supervise or produce anything presently; she just gets the credit for time served.

So it's a "retired in place" position.  You get paid big bucks for doing nothing.

Where do I sign up?

Actually, that's part of the definition for "Executive Producer." 

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let's remember that YOU claimed there was a consensus supporting your position

Let's remember that there are other users, like Pantheon, who confirm that there was indeed such a consensus / agreement. I can't help it that you changed your mind.

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I'm sure I remember the rules committee making a statement to the fact that the rules should have mentioned Supervisiing Producer in the same way that Supervising Art Producer is mentioned and that is was an error on the part of Invelos that resulted in this being omitted in the rules.

The rules chart is what came from Rules Committee #1. I searched Rules Committee #2 (results of which were not implemented) and it was not discussed there. I searched the Unofficial Rules Review Forum and it was not discussed there. I searched the Rules Committee forum here at Invelos and it was not discussed there either. I'm at a loss.

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So, to be on the safe side - has the opinion changed for other 'forum consensus' entries?

I can't find a forum consensus on Supervising Producer. The only threads I've found either here or at IVS that mention Supervising Producer are these 2:

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Intevocative threads:

Poll: Do we enter 'Supervising Producer'? by T!M.
Results: Yes = 6; No = 16

Thread which asked the same question and no one said 'yes'. 

EDIT: I recreated the poll here so we don't have to search Intervocative next time.

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let's remember that YOU claimed there was a consensus supporting your position

Let's remember that there are other users, like Pantheon, who confirm that there was indeed such a consensus / agreement. I can't help it that you changed your mind.

Can you provide a link to the consensus because I have searched and can't find it, with the exception of the 2 links above which don't support the supposed consensus.