Skip: I was simply making an observation.

Though the last I saw this come up was quite some time ago.

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Why is this still a question?  First, Ken said we are after the 'most commonly credited form of the name', not a 'simple common name'.  Second, Gerri gave her opinion on this matter..back on the first page.  Her opinion, which I have quoted below, was to include the rank and military branch designation.

That should be the end of it...or am I missing something? 

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I would agree with including the USMC. In my opinion, I would consider as all part of his rank, which was included in these credits.

-Gerri

Unicus:

You think I understand it, I wish i did, I have my theories as you know. <shakes head>

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Arrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucy Van Pelt where are you when I need you?

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Why in one case John Doe, jr. is common and for the next actor Peter Doe jr.? I can't see a sense in that, except this means more work for the contributors...

Indeed, there isn't any sense in that. I've said it before and I'll say it again: IMHO this is the single most ridiculous inconsisty of all things DVD Profiler. I feel it's inconsistencies like this one that drive potential contributors away, but instead leads to more and more users keeping their work local. It's truly inexcusable to enter one suffixed name with the comma, and the next one without it, especially since whichever way you choose, you'll always end up getting no-votes when you try to correct the other variant - either based on "common sense" of the voters, or by the heavily IMDb-influenced (meaning: comma-less) "credit lookup tool" results.

Invelos really needs to set a standard for this A.S.A.P. - I don't even care if they choose with or without the comma, as long as they pick one. The current system is utterly ridiculous, has resulted in redundant, non-linking double entries for all suffixed names in the database, and leads to ping-ponging as well. Ken/Gerri - would you PLEASE fix this once and for all?

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1. For starters, how do you know when a certain name has to be searched for in the CLT?

Mostly, when I see an actor name that isn't link with other movies that I own.

Lucky we have the Name Variants tool that helps in the comparison, but it needs some work and the user must understand how to use it and must understand that similar names don't always mean same person.

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2. How do you know what other names and variants to compare it with?

I compare it with the credited names I have in those other movies

Still, the same person might be credited with other names in the movies you don't own. Sometimes, the most frequent credited name might be in movies you don't own, or you didn't think of, anyway, because the names are not so similar.

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3. How can you be sure all the results refer to the same person?

I will mostly use online ressources to research the person's bio

Bios don't tell if there are other people who share the same credited name and how many CLT results refer to whom.

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4. How do you know if the correct Common Name has changed in time because of new credits / corrections?

That the biggest flaw for the current system.  I guess, we'll have to live with it until Invelos comes up with an alternative.

So, every time a ", Jr." changes to " Jr.", we have to find out about it. I think a standard "junior" in Common Names would be simpler.

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5. How do you count the results? By titles? (including localized translations of the same title), by movies?, by total profiles?

Since there a lot of inconsistency with the results.  For example, an actor credited differently for two profiles of the same movie, I personnelly prefer to count the number of titles/movies.

In my view the number of movies (regardless of localized titles) is the most relevant number, but the CLT doesn't return that.