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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,635 |
| Posted: | | | | I don't understand why anyone would get the red arrow on any post in this thread... I thought the point was that we were allowed to disagree... Even the most emotional statements here are fairly tame. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,804 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting VibroCount: Quote: I don't understand why anyone would get the red arrow on any post in this thread... I thought the point was that we were allowed to disagree...
Even the most emotional statements here are fairly tame.
Agree, VibroCount! Maybe it would be better to establish a 12hrs timeframe between a posting and the ability to vote for it?! Time to deflect and reconsider! | | | Thorsten |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,678 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: I've said all I'm going to on this subject! You accused me (or perhaps you meant most of the Swedes) of having loose mores because I (or we) didn't think that mentioning the "c word" in passing was a big deal. Is it unreasonable to want to know how you rationalize such a statement? | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: Exactly the same thing happened over here on a daytime programme called "This Morning", Caprice was being interviewed because she was doing the same monologue on the London stage and she referred to it by name. The presenters didn't even notice at the time because they were simply talking about the play. My opinion, no big deal. In the context of the conversation it was a perfectly understandable use of the word. exactly. no big deal. She was just answering a question honestly.. | | | Paul |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,394 |
| Posted: | | | | I think few people who did not live during the Vietnam war in the US can fully understand the contempt many of us have for the traitor named Jane Fonda. She has tried to justify her actions in North Vietnam (gleefully posing on a gun platform that shot down may of her countrymen) by saying she was "young and foolish" or somethng like that and didn't understand that the North Vietnamese were using her for political purposes. That's sophist Bull-S**t. The fact was that she wasn't a teenager at the time. The only reason she has ever made any half-hearted attempt to feign an apology is because she doesn't like people to remember how despicable a person she really is. If there were truly any justice in the US she would have been eithe jailed long ago or treated like Philip Nolan (The Man without a Country) who was sentenced to permanent exile never to hear the name of the United Stages again. Her cavailer use of the C-word (considered by many women to be the absoulte worst profanity) is proof that she cares for no one but herself. I don't doubt that in person she can be as friendly as VibroCount says. I consider her to be a highly talented actress. That doesn't begin, however, to counteract her villainous, traitorous past. I'm sure she wouldn't have used the "N-word" if she had been asked to appear in a play/movie with that word in the title. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole) Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges. DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 | | | Last edited: by kdh1949 |
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Registered: May 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,033 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote: I think few people who did not live during the Vietnam war in the US can fully understand the contempt many of us have for the traitor named Jane Fonda. ... I served from 1969 to 1974, including Saigon. I know my thoughts are not unique. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
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Registered: May 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,033 |
| Posted: | | | | ok, this will probably get me in trouble, but I need to say it because its bothering me.
Jane Fonda and her past have absolutly nothing to do with the usage of the c-word. If it was some totally innocent woman who has a flawless past with no negative press, what would your reaction be. How does her use of the c-word, in a totally un-profane way, have anything to do with her involvement in an opposition to The Vietnam War?
While I can't ever fully understand the contempt some people that lived during that time period have for her, as i didn't live during that time period. I fail to see how that has any bearing on her saying this word. I further see how it says anything about how she feels about other people, and honestly don't see anything that need to be apologized for by anyone regarding this incident. Its just a word, and not all woman feel that it is 'absolute worst profanity', its only degrading and offensive if you let yourself be degraded and offended by it. If no one cared, it would loose all its power to stir up this much controversy.
And I don't think the specific word had any bearing on her comment. If it was a title with some other 'offensive' word I do not think that, in the context, it would have changed her saying it or not.
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Registered: May 25, 2007 | Posts: 176 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Agrare: Quote: ok, this will probably get me in trouble, but I need to say it because its bothering me. I have no green arrows left to give |
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Registered: April 8, 2007 | Posts: 1,057 |
| Posted: | | | | Hi Guys, Quote: So in the context of the word it is the title of the monologue she was asked to do, therefore there is nothing dirty or obscene about it (maybe rude, but not obscene) True! But, If the part was about someone sleeping around, an she refer to it as f**ing around? Allowing the c-word, opens up a can of worms, therefore appropriate actions by the FCC are in order. Note! I was in Nam 3 tours, and feel pretty much the opposite of 'Hal' regarding Ms. Fonda. Take Care Rico | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick! Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting wintermute115: Quote: Quoting Agrare:
Quote: ok, this will probably get me in trouble, but I need to say it because its bothering me. I have no green arrows left to give don't worry - I gave one.. | | | Paul |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Rico: Quote: Hi Guys,
Quote: So in the context of the word it is the title of the monologue she was asked to do, therefore there is nothing dirty or obscene about it (maybe rude, but not obscene) True!
But, If the part was about someone sleeping around, an she refer to it as f**ing around? Allowing the c-word, opens up a can of worms, therefore appropriate actions by the FCC are in order.
why wouildn't she refer to it as F******g around? there is nothing obscene about that either. | | | Paul |
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Registered: April 8, 2007 | Posts: 1,057 |
| Posted: | | | | Hi Paul, Quote:
why wouildn't she refer to it as F******g around? there is nothing obscene about that either. What she did was substitute a word, which is banned by our FCC. The UK is perhaps more liberal. So F**ing around is a substitution, for sleeping around, and F**ing, is not suitable for USA. As for Quote: there is nothing obscene about that either. take that up with our FCC & see if they agree with you. Take Care Rico | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick! Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 811 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet: Quote: Newsbusters
some people should get out more, .... see the Oscar nominated "Atonement" for more discussion of the "C" word |
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