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Monty Python and the Holy Grail / Crew list
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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Really?  We had a huge discussion about this, quite some time ago, and the majority felt they should be included.  I figured it had already been done. 

The discussion was at InterVocative and I believe in that database we may have had the crazy-credits, at least for some of those 6 profiles. However, apparently whoever uploaded the profile(s) at Invelos didn't update to that. I may be wrong of course (the old contrib notes for the Special Edition I own do not indicate the contribution of the llamas).
Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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The discussion was at InterVocative and I believe in that database we may have had the crazy-credits, at least for some of those 6 profiles. However, apparently whoever uploaded the profile(s) at Invelos didn't update to that. I may be wrong of course (the old contrib notes for the Special Edition I own do not indicate the contribution of the llamas).


True. The UK profile at least had the llamas included back at Intervocative (and I still have them included). The one that uploaded the profile to Invelos didn't include them so it's not in the DB now.

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How to credit this?
   

Not at all!

The rules talk about "credits" and "people" and not about "jokes" and "llamas".
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And you are undoubtedly the best at determining the filmmaker's intent and whether it is a joke or just maybe the filmmaker was making a some form of comment. Puhlease. That is why we do As Credited, or WYSIWYT.

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And now for something completely different
I've edited the profiles cast and up to now the response is quite positive. Thanks to you all for your help and for not taking this too serious (It's Monty Python you know).

My question now is:
How to credit this?

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Executive Producer
JOHN GOLDSTONE & "RALPH" The Wonder Llama

Producer
MARK FORSTATER

Assisted By
EARL J. LLAMA
MILT Q. LLAMA III
SY LLAMA
MERLE Z. LLAMA IX


Directed By

40 SPECIALLY TRAINED
ECUADORIAN MOUNTAIN LLAMAS

6 VENEZUELAN RED LLAMAS

142 MEXICAN WHOOPING LLAMAS

14 NORTH CHILEAN GUANACOS
(CLOSELY RELATED TO THE LLAMA)

REG LLAMA OF BRIXTON

76000 BATTERY LLAMAS
FROM "LLAMA-FRESH" FARMS LTD. NEAR PARAGUAY

and

TERRY GILLIAM & TERRY JONES


   


Surely the big question is not do we credit them, but how do we parse their names?     
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Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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And now for something completely different
I've edited the profiles cast and up to now the response is quite positive. Thanks to you all for your help and for not taking this too serious (It's Monty Python you know).

My question now is:
How to credit this?

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Executive Producer
JOHN GOLDSTONE & "RALPH" The Wonder Llama

Producer
MARK FORSTATER

Assisted By
EARL J. LLAMA
MILT Q. LLAMA III
SY LLAMA
MERLE Z. LLAMA IX


Directed By

40 SPECIALLY TRAINED
ECUADORIAN MOUNTAIN LLAMAS

6 VENEZUELAN RED LLAMAS

142 MEXICAN WHOOPING LLAMAS

14 NORTH CHILEAN GUANACOS
(CLOSELY RELATED TO THE LLAMA)

REG LLAMA OF BRIXTON

76000 BATTERY LLAMAS
FROM "LLAMA-FRESH" FARMS LTD. NEAR PARAGUAY

and

TERRY GILLIAM & TERRY JONES


   


Surely the big question is not do we credit them, but how do we parse their names?     


LOLLLAMA very sad:



Me not credited??           
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Not at all!

The rules talk about "credits" and "people" and not about "jokes" and "llamas".


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Rho:

And you are undoubtedly the best at determining the filmmaker's intent and whether it is a joke or just maybe the filmmaker was making a some form of comment. Puhlease. That is why we do As Credited, or WYSIWYT.

Skip


And here we go again....

This reminds me of another famous piece of film history...

"The same procedure as last year, mylady?"
"The same procedure as every year, James."

To cut it short, someone please post the link to the old Intervocative thread, then those interested in discussing this again can go back and read it all... again
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How to credit this?
   

Not at all!

The rules talk about "credits" and "people" and not about "jokes" and "llamas".


That was my argument back at IVS.  The rules for crew do, indeed, use the words 'person' and 'people'.  By comparison, the rules for cast use the word 'actor'.  While llamas can be actors, I don't know of a single definition that would allow them to be 'people'.

As you can guess, the "people" at IVS felt I was splitting hairs.  I don't own the film, so I defered to the majority. 
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Well, after enjoying this thread really very much, an innovative idea came to my mind concerning the question if we should credit the llamas or not *drum rolls* :

commonsense ®*

Ever thought about this? 

*applicable to many other situations
Thorsten
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This reminds me of another famous piece of film history...

"The same procedure as last year, mylady?"
"The same procedure as every year, James."

As far as I know, this is only famous in Germany and the German speaking neighbourhood.
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Add Scandinavia to that list, RHo

Every December 23rd in Norway (at 21:00) and every December 31st in Sweden

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Add Scandinavia to that list, RHo

Every December 23rd in Norway (at 21:00) and every December 31st in Sweden

So the rumour that it might not be that well known in the UK might be an urban legend?
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So the rumour that it might not be that well known in the UK might be an urban legend?


No, that rumour's true - I haven't the foggiest idea what you guys are on about! 
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So the rumour that it might not be that well known in the UK might be an urban legend?


No, that rumour's true - I haven't the foggiest idea what you guys are on about! 

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To cut it short, someone please post the link to the old Intervocative thread, then those interested in discussing this again can go back and read it all... again

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