Quoting northbloke:

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I thought about that, but what about all the foreign films that have been released in the US?
Neither region code nor locality can really be used to guarantee CoO.

Since most of those would have 'foreign' as a genre they would be easy to filter out and correct. 

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And if you think about it, a lot of the major studios' releases will already be in the new database, as they will be owned by more people, so a lot of the profiles needing transferring are more likely to be the rarer/less popular titles, which are less likely to follow convention.

True. 

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I say, if we can't find a way to make the selection more reliable, keep it blank.

Hate to see all those CoO contributions come through again....a;though the titles for my collection are already updated so.....

Actually I have mostly major studio releases, very few foreign films (not counting LoTR ) and have 95% of my CoOs completed so.... (in my best Rifter voice) Leave it blank, fill it in, do whatever the hell you damn well please, it's all garbage anyway. 

I voted to leave them blank.

My reasoning is that there actually won't be a ton of contributions to fix these.  If people cared enough about these to enter the CoO and submit them, that would have already happened.  I'd guess that the majority of these profiles will simply sit in the new database and not be touched for ages.  In light of that, I'd rather they be missing data than filled in with potentially wrong data.

Leave them blank. Any process that results in incorrect information being entered into the database should be vetoed.

Leaving them blank means that someone is likely to fill in the info. Creating a default will encourage people to not check it.

Leave it blank.

This should only affect a smallish number of profiles per user. If there is something in the field it is less likely to get checked. To assume that someone will go through all their US CoO and check to see if theu are correct is assuming too much of most people.

No information is better than wrong information.

Blank, it doesnt take long till the old profiles have been added, and thus ending the issue.

After reading the three pages, here's my take:

Basically, Ken is suggesting to steer away from accuracy of the online db to accomodate an easier way to enter data. Something the user community has tried to avoid at all costs during the past years. Just thinking of the anal arguments we've had in the past should inidcate very well how the majority would think about this.

I'll keep in mind that Rifter actually welcomes entering wrong data for the benefit of a reduced work load. I'm sure others in this forum will make this one stick. I bet this statement will come back to haunt you in future discussions about accuracy vs. practicability and / or consistency, John.

While I can understand where Ken is coming from, and I also find the CoO only contributions tiresome, I don't think the introduction of a new field justifies giving up the principles of the online db. IMO, the annoying part is not the voting on these submissions, but the necessity to preview them like erverything else upon updates. I'd rather see something implemented to automatically update approved CoO without listing this update for preview, i. e. keeping these submissions in the voting and evaluation process, but taking them out of the user controlled update process (maybe something like the updaqte of the online list).

So, to sum it up:

Leave the field blank by default, and if it's possible to autoupdate approved and voted upon CoO contributions, do that.

The high number of DVDs released in the US and the high number of users affected actually works against the CoO = USA option; the DVDs with the fewest users are the hardest ones to get info on... and those are the ones that will be the worst hit.  The latest blockbuster will be corrected numerous times and shan't be an issue.

Leave blank.