Quoting lyonsden5:

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FWIW, I never said I agreed with Mark. I agreed he had a valid point is all. I was willing to drop it at that

I still feel any contributor who choses not to contribute is a loss to Invelos.

Not only is it a loss to Invelos, but it is yet another voice out there, in other forums, saying "I tried to contribute there but they are way too strict". Anyone who has looked at other forums or looked for other similar software knows that there is a percent of people out there who will not join here because we are too strict. There are also those who use the program but do not and will not contribute for the same reasons.

At some point that will effect the bottom line for Invelos. As Ken stated, there is a fine balance between accuracy and ease of use. Today the scale just clicked another notch toward accuracy being more important than ease of use.

You always claim to see the "bigger picture". Guess not this time.

FWIW I fully agree with you. I just hope that Ken and Gerri exercise more discretion when it comes to reviewing the profiles and the reason for the no votes.

Since you want to open this, I agree, Ken and Gerri do need to pay attention to notes. Right now we have user making an attempt at a fundamental change in the way we have ALWAYS done titles. A change that, if accepted and NOT corrected will affect hundreds, if not thousands of titles. So far I am the lone No vote and I will fix the damage immediately. It is a change that flies in the face of the way things have been done going back to the birth of program, it's not that theoretically the user is correct, but I don't believe he recognizes the wide-ranging impact it has, or if he does then he joins the ranks of some other users in putting their imprimatur on the Db.

Without giving away who and what

it involves our use of the colon in titles

For example Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, looking at the cover and the film credits its Star Tre VI The Undiscovered Country, except for the back cover.

Skip

I don't get involved in the forums too much and only contribute occasionally.  There was one incident where I was correcting something, and it caused a big ruckus (minor differences of opinion in how things should be displayed).  I felt like I never wanted to contribute again because of how out of control it seemed to get. 

But you know what?  I like that we have differences of opinion and will talk things out and come to compromises.  I certainly have learned a lot in what to do and not do and know that mistakes happen.  It is the willingness to fix those mistakes and take all no votes as constructive crisicism that helps you go far.

Yes, there is a fine line between detailed and nitpicky, but the main thing is how we phrase our objections and how we take it when we are rejected.  The unfortunate thing about the net is that it is hard to show intent in when we type.  I do think having more people contributing is great, however even I have to agree that the original poster didn't take things as constructively as they could be taken.

Quoting skipnet50:

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Since you want to open this, I agree, Ken and Gerri do need to pay attention to notes. Right now we have user making an attempt at a fundamental change in the way we have ALWAYS done titles. A change that, if accepted and NOT corrected will affect hundreds, if not thousands of titles. So far I am the lone No vote and I will fix the damage immediately. It is a change that flies in the face of the way things have been done going back to the birth of program, it's not that theoretically the user is correct, but I don't believe he recognizes the wide-ranging impact it has, or if he does then he joins the ranks of some other users in putting their imprimatur on the Db.

Without giving away who and what

it involves our use of the colon in titles

For example Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, looking at the cover and the film credits its Star Tre VI The Undiscovered Country, except for the back cover.

Skip

Reading this post, you'd think he was setting off a nuclear bomb.

Quoting skipnet50:

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Due to users response on the titler I referred to its

2010: The Year WE Make Contact 012569-505322

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Don't get me started on the use of :, these are used when they are inappropriate, i.e. when it is not a series and the title does not designate one.

Quoting Lopek:

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Maybe he would have calmed down if people had been supportive, and the community would have gained a good contributer - but we'll never know as most people decided to laugh and scream good riddance. Sad 

I can't speak for others, but I can speak for myself.  I stayed out of things (since I don't own the titles in question).  It was only after he refused to make a few small edits and started acting like a big baby that I jumped in.

I'm all for taking any help we can get.  I'm fine with people making mistakes.  I'm fine with people making contributions and skipping the parts where they're not comfortable.  I'm not fine with people intentionally contributing bad data and not caring.  Next time we might not have someone as sharp as Pete around to catch the error.

I would like to apologize to everyone on this board.

I had an extremely bad day yesterday (personal stuff) and I was in a very bad mood because of it.

I took the NO votes very personally, as an insult to all of my hard work. I got upset and blew my top.

Yes, I overreacted and looking back I was wrong to take it out on you guys.

I sincerely hope that you can forgive me for my behavior. I am truely sorry.

Good to hear that, and for what it's worth, I would like to apologize to you for the amount of sarcasm and cyninism I put in my earlier posting as well