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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lopek: Quote:
Interesting reference:
A Fish Called Wanda at the British Film Institute (BFI)
It states that the Production Countries are USA and Great Britain. 
I have to agree with those that have said this field either needs to be removed or explaned, as it's current format it is more trouble than it is worth.
To me it is pretty clear that it was USA funded, and produced by a British company - Prominent Features (setup by the Pythons - yes I know Gilliam is american  ).
That in my mind makes it a British film by any level of common sense - but I guess we need a final clarification from Ken and Gerri of what their intent for the field was. We could always ask a llama... as long as he is specially trained that is  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Of course they can, but when they do, they don't go back and edit the movie and put different info at the end of the credits. Oh, yes! Sometimes they do. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
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Of course they can, but when they do, they don't go back and edit the movie and put different info at the end of the credits.
Oh, yes! Sometimes they do. OK, on subsequent issues of that movie, maybe. But all the copies released at the beginning have the original data, so it's a moot point. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 188 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, it's been declined at 8 yes and 2 no votes. Which means that the people that gave us the definition shot it down. I'm going to resubmit as UK and see what happens. If you own it, feel free to vote on it in your honest opinion (yes or no). | | | | Build a man a fire and you keep him warm for a day. Set a man on fire and you keep him warm the rest of his life. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 820 |
| | Posted: | | | | As an Australian, I think I can offer an objective view given that most of us have no great love for either the poms or the yanks, both of who like to claim credit for almost everything. It is clearly a joint venture between the US and the UK. That said, it is a very British film in almost every respect. As to COO, i think that it needs to be recorded as US/UK. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Telecine: Quote:
As an Australian, I think I can offer an objective view given that most of us have no great love for either the poms or the yanks, Typically bloody Aussie  No mention of cricket for the next month please, unless by a huge miracle we keep freddie sober and do ok  | | |  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 188 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Telecine: Quote:
As to COO, i think that it needs to be recorded as US/UK. You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone in disagreement with this. Unfortunately, it's not possible as the system stands. Perhaps this should be a requested future feature? Multiple CoOs? | | | | Build a man a fire and you keep him warm for a day. Set a man on fire and you keep him warm the rest of his life. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 171 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm in the mood to cause a little trouble and stir the pot a bit!!!  In many previous discussions (arguments, whatever you want to call them) about DVDP, one point always came up about the PURPOSE of the program. What are we profiling? Movies or DVDs? If we are profiling movies, then all the points about who is in the movie and who wrote it and the theme might be the prevailing argument. But, it has been pointed out many, many times that we are profiling the DVD and not the movie. So, what does that mean? Still hard to answer the question, but wouldn't that mean the Country of Origin would be of the DVD and not the Movie? Don't know the answer, just in the mood to play the Devil's Advocate. So flame away!  Ken or Gerri will have to give us the answer as to the actual purpose of this field and how to determine the appropriate value. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 793 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting jgilligan: Quote:
So, what does that mean? Still hard to answer the question, but wouldn't that mean the Country of Origin would be of the DVD and not the Movie? That would make Mexico the Country of Origin of most Region 1 US DVDs |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Telecine: Quote:
As an Australian, I think I can offer an objective view given that most of us have no great love for either the poms or the yanks, both of who like to claim credit for almost everything. It is clearly a joint venture between the US and the UK. That said, it is a very British film in almost every respect. As to COO, i think that it needs to be recorded as US/UK. Legalities matter, however, and the company/country listed first is normally the senior partner in any venture. Sort of a 'first among equals' situation. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 813 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Legalities matter, however, and the company/country listed first is normally the senior partner in any venture. Sort of a 'first among equals' situation. This database is not about legalities, it is about usable data for DVD fans and collectors. A Fish called Wanda is clearly a British film by any sensible standards. | | | Andy 
"Credited as" Names Database |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
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Of course they can, but when they do, they don't go back and edit the movie and put different info at the end of the credits.
Oh, yes! Sometimes they do.
OK, on subsequent issues of that movie, maybe. But all the copies released at the beginning have the original data, so it's a moot point. For older films, they do it even for the first DVD release. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 171 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lopek: Quote:
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Legalities matter, however, and the company/country listed first is normally the senior partner in any venture. Sort of a 'first among equals' situation.
This database is not about legalities, it is about usable data for DVD fans and collectors. A Fish called Wanda is clearly a British film by any sensible standards. Since when have sensible standards had any place in DVDP?!? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 813 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting jgilligan: Quote:
Since when have sensible standards had any place in DVDP?!? Fair point... silly me!  | | | Andy
"Credited as" Names Database |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 171 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lopek: Quote:
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Since when have sensible standards had any place in DVDP?!?
Fair point... silly me! On a slightly serious note, is there ANYTHING at all posted here on the Invelos site about what Country of Origin is supposed to be? And I don't mean opinions of fellow users, something from Ken or Gerri. I could find noting in the Contribution Rules and a search of the Support Database turned up nothing. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting jgilligan: Quote:
In many previous discussions (arguments, whatever you want to call them) about DVDP, one point always came up about the PURPOSE of the program. What are we profiling? Movies or DVDs? The program has places in which to record data for both the physical DVD and the content of the DVD, so I've always had much contempt for the "this is not movie profiler" argument. It's sort of like saying one shouldn't put flatware or glassware into dishwasher even though though it's built to wash all of them. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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