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I agree with many of your points but I think you can respond to an attack without attacking back.  All I'm suggesting is that the site is moderated in an active and consistent manner.  Flagging it with red doesn't do any good so why even bother?  It will continue to be a problem, whether it's one user or many, until something is done about it.

If a system is in place to deal with it then both people should face the consequences of their actions regardless of who started it.

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I also agree to a point.  I don't think anyone is trying to bait him to get him banned, as it's obvious that isn't going to happen.  I think many have grown tired of his antics and jump on him every chance they get, which I agree doesn't help matters but I can certainly understand their frustration.  Not excusing it mind you, but I do understand it.  It's also frustrating that nothing has been done about the problem.  The promise of a ban hammer coming into effect didn't play out.  I'm not sure if the apathy s due to not having enough resources to follow the forum close enough, if that is the case I'm sure there are some great members that would & could step in to help moderate the forums.

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That is probably true, and everyone should be accountable for their own actions.  I'd agree that putting it all on one poster would be unfair and inaccurate.  But I'd say it'd be fair to say that a good portion of the problem lies with one user, I think many of the inflammatory posts are of others tie in directly or indirectly with the one user.  That isn't giving them a free pass as in the end everyone should be accountable for their own actions.  Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any real repercussions for behaving poorly.  Just yesterday a poster violated the rules, and openly mocked them and all that happened was being told not to do it and the thread being closed.  Until the time there is a deterrent for this type of behavior it will continue to occur.  As it is now you can pretty much say anything you want and the worst that will happen is having your posts removed.  IMO the only way to fix the problem is to have a system in place to deal with unacceptable behavior, until such time things aren't going to change.  I've also read that they'd like a permanent ban which I also don't agree with.  You can't have zero discipline and then come down with something that dramatic.  Just have a system in place and the same rules for everyone and the forum would improve immediately.

But who do you discipline.  Obviously the original poster, but what about the people that went in and knowingly continued the bad behavior.

With my children, it does matter who started it, but if they all participate, then they all receive a punishment.  While you try to espouse one person, the people responding angrily, and continuing the discussion for 10 pages are just as guilty in my mind.

The problem that people have here, is they think that they must respond in kind to any perceived insult.  That response in itself is also bad behavior.

If you want it to stop, then you must also stop.  If you read a post that is, to you offensive, then flag it with red and don't respond in kind.  My mother used to say, "it takes 2 two Tango".  It is really hard to have a heated argument with yourself.

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Too many people in the past have stood back and not 'rocked the boat' because they haven't wanted to become a target themselves. I know, I've been there!

But, surely there comes a time when everyone has to stand up to bullies; otherwise they just continue to bully and bully and bully.

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It's easy enough to participate in this forum without calling names or being sarcastic or facetious. Surely.

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And you don't understand the target's frustration, DoubleDown. This for all the world reminds me of the The lost Boys in Hook....Bangarang. Certainlly NOT mature behavior.

I certainly will not claim to beinnocent, Charlie. But overall the behavior on the other side is way, way over the top. They, ALL of them, completely destroyed any credibility they might have had, the moment they started participating in threads of this nature and I am still surprised that ken allows it.

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And you don't understand the target's frustration, DoubleDown. This for all the world reminds me of the The lost Boys in Hook....Bangarang. Certainlly NOT mature behavior.

I certainly will not claim to beinnocent, Charlie. But overall the behavior on the other side is way, way over the top. They, ALL of them, completely destroyed any credibility they might have had, the moment they started participating in threads of this nature and I am still surprised that ken allows it.

Well, at least you acknowledge that you yourself have behaved poorly. 

You seem to justify your actions by blaming others.  Did you ever consider these other people wouldn't respond to you if you didn't act inappropriately in the first place?  Why have they targeted you and only you Skip?  I do think there have been times you may have been unfairly attacked, but more often than not you were the one that started it.

I too am really surprised Ken allows it.  It shouldn't be allowed by anyone, not by you, me or anyone else.

You mention credibility.  I find it someone ironic that you say everyone else doesn't have it because they talk about it which is against forum rules.  But you are the same one that started a thread  which was against forum rules, and openly mocked it because you didn't agree with it.  Where is your credibility?