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I KNOW THIS IS NOT PER THE RULES, AND I WILL NOT BE SUBMITTING THEM. 

They way I have been handling TV sets and the way I plan to continue, is to have a main profile for the slipcase and then child profiles for each keepcase or thincase in the slipcase regardless of the number of disc in each thincase.  If there are 2 disc in the thincase, I use only one child profile for that thincase.  This just makes it easier for me to keep up with and mark as loaned if I lone it out to a friend.  With the divider in 3.0, I can divide each episode and each disc.  Example Stargate Atlantis or Battlestar Galactica. 

For Digipak, I have one profile with all the disc listed in the disc section of the profile.  Example Lost.

I don't get the idea behind ONE profile if there is two discs in the keep case.  Each disc has its own ID, why bury one of them inside a profile of the other one?

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This is what i do, i'll let the "I want only 1 profile" people have their data, but i contribute boxset content, and will continue to do so, and will continue to vote 'no' on every contribution that removes them, untill the rules say "Do not enter box set content for TV series".

Apparently the fact that the Rules specifically define that boxset rules are only to be used for multi-year TV Sets, is irrelevant to you (and a few others).

And as as been pointed out to you on numerosus occassions it does not matter how you interpret the difference.

The Rules define the handling of Boxsets (more than one MOVIE) and TV Sets differently.

If Invelos intended for them to be handled the same way, they would not have different Rules defined for them.

Quoting Rifter:

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The new rules we worked up for 2.5 would have addressed this and eliminated most of the controversy.  I'm sad to see Ken hasn't included those changes in the intial rules for 3.0.

I am actually glad he didn't include those changes.  They are so outdated that it would have been a huge step backwards.  People were already used to the current rules so it was a good idea to let them continue with them.  As Ken said in another post, we can address any concerns and revise the rules as issues are identified.

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Quoting skipnet50:

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I don't see anything in the Rules supporting your interpretation, hal.

Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile.

That is the ONLY place in the rules where it says TV Sets can be treated like Box Sets.  This is a conditional rule.  If the TV Set matches this 'rare case', then it can be treated like a Box Set profile.  If it doesn't, then it can't.

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There is NO prohibition from including Boxset data. You want to operate off the Master Proifile that is fine, I think it winds up with a massive amount Cast and Crew data that is difficult to assimilate. Operating of the Child or in some cases Grandchild(When we get them) will make the data more manageable. So you get to do it YOUR way and providing Boxset data allows for thos of us who wish to go another to accomplish the same objective. Everybody wins.

While I agree with you in theory, you can't say that your position is supported by the rules.  The fact that we now have a 'divider feature' seems to indicate that a 'master profile', with divided cast and crew, was the direction Ken wanted to go.

Thanks Unicus, but you are wasting your breath.  I have cited that specific section of the Rules for Skip over and over and over and yet he still makes a post that says that the Rules do not prohibit adding boxset contents to single season TV Sets.

Do the Rules say specifically "Do not enter boxset contents in single season TV Set parent profiles"?  No.  But they also don't say to not enter boxset contents into multi-disc single movie editions (which could certainly be done if someone wanted to).  The Rules do say that Boxset Rules can only be applied to TV sets containing multiple seasons of a TV series.  Implicit in that statement is that you may not apply Boxset Rules to single season TV Sets.  The only place that directs you to enter Boxset contents is the section of the Rules specifically for Boxsets.

It won't matter to Skip how many times you repeat this, he will continue to contribute according to his own personal preference!

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Quoting skipnet50:

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I don't see anything in the Rules supporting your interpretation, hal.

Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile.

That is the ONLY place in the rules where it says TV Sets can be treated like Box Sets.  This is a conditional rule.  If the TV Set matches this 'rare case', then it can be treated like a Box Set profile.  If it doesn't, then it can't.

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There is NO prohibition from including Boxset data. You want to operate off the Master Proifile that is fine, I think it winds up with a massive amount Cast and Crew data that is difficult to assimilate. Operating of the Child or in some cases Grandchild(When we get them) will make the data more manageable. So you get to do it YOUR way and providing Boxset data allows for thos of us who wish to go another to accomplish the same objective. Everybody wins.

While I agree with you in theory, you can't say that your position is supported by the rules.  The fact that we now have a 'divider feature' seems to indicate that a 'master profile', with divided cast and crew, was the direction Ken wanted to go.

It isn't a rare case any more.  Almost all of the series that have been out for awhile can be gotten in multi-season sets.  Doing the profiles for those is no different, there's just more discs to do.  So, if the bigger can one can be a boxset, so can the single season.  It's like saying a bag of oranges are oranges, but a single orange is a peach otherwise.

If you agree in theory, why in hell aren't you trying to help convince Ken to amend the rules as I suggested?

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You seem to be misunderstanding the rule.  The rule doesn't say anything about multi-season sets.  It says multiple Complete TV Series packaged together...notice it says SERIES, not SEASON.

Unicus, I believe you are misinterpreting this section AND it is very poorly worded.  The word "Series" is also used (especially in the UK and elsewhere) to mean what we know as a Season in the U.S.

What you are suggesting doesn't make very much sense.  Why would totally different "Complete Series" be packaged together?  All of X-files with all of Friends with all of Cheers.  I don't know about you, but I've never seen that done.

This part of the Rules is referring to packaging all of the individual complete seasons (or series if you're British) and selling the Complete TV Series (multiple years) as a single unit, but with individual seasons still within the bigger package.

The Rule then goes on to say to treat each of the individual seasons as a "film" and add them to the "Complete Series" boxset as if they were films.

As I said this was very poorly worded, and I can see how it could be interpreted as you have.  Either way, it does not allow for a single season of a TV Set to be treated as a boxset, and therefore adding boxset contents to them is a violation of the Current Rules.

And believe me, John, we've been trying to get updates made to the Rules for going on two years!

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Apparently the fact that the Rules specifically define that boxset rules are only to be used for multi-year TV Sets, is irrelevant to you (and a few others).

Why would the box set area say on the credits "For additional information on handling of TV Series type releases see the TV series section." if we shouldnt add them? The rules say nothing about multi-year TV sets, at least i couldnt find any such info. Other then the credits part the rules say nothing about TV series in the Box Set section.