You must be talking about season indicators being put in title and not the edition...which is the correct way to do it... as we were told to do it... for DVD profiler purposes the season  indicator is part of the title.

The reason Gerri made this ruling is at the time, the program didn't support alternate profiles, so it had to be one or the other. It could be done differently now, but this is a rule-change issue as the rules do say clearly that the season profile thing only applies if each season has its own UPC/EAN.

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The CLT is messed up by putting anything into the original title field but the title. Any season indicator in there raises the number of profiles at least by two!

The season number is part of the title by any reasonable standard. If we enter the same thing in every profile, it will be fine. Otherwise, CLT will consider Buffy season One and Buffy Season to be two entries of the same product, not different things that need to be counted separately. CLT was one of the main reasons for this rule.

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I don't fully understand your post, but to clarify two things:
a) I'm speaking about original title only - the title field does not affect the CLT
b) The CLT counts original title per year

This means (as long as we do not define standardized season indicators - and you may remember my very hopeless trial over there in the contribution rules forum) there is exactly one possible parsing to keep the CLT working:
Original title = Original title of the complete series (in this example: Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
Production Year = Production year of the first episode of the Season (in this example: 1997 - even for the sixth disc of the box)

I'm talking about original title. Buffy Seasons 1 & 2 would both be 1997. Granted, this is an unusual situation, but with most shows, seasons are split across years, which would cause them to be counted wrong. Appearing at the end of season three (aired in May) and the beginning of season 4 (aired in October of the same year) of a given show would only count as one in CLT without season indicators in the original title. It should count as two.

Then there's the issue that the season number is part of the original title by any reasonable definition. Something like "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" is the name of the whole run of the show. It has never been the name of any particular season.

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This means (as long as we do not define standardized season indicators - and you may remember my very hopeless trial over there in the contribution rules forum) there is exactly one possible parsing to keep the CLT working:
Original title = Original title of the complete series (in this example: Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
Production Year = Production year of the first episode of the Season (in this example: 1997 - even for the sixth disc of the box)

I'm talking about original title. Buffy Seasons 1 & 2 would both be 1997. Granted, this is an unusual situation, but with most shows, seasons are split across years, which would cause them to be counted wrong. Appearing at the end of season three (aired in May) and the beginning of season 4 (aired in October of the same year) of a given show would only count as one in CLT without season indicators in the original title. It should count as two.

... it counts as two...

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Then there's the issue that the season number is part of the original title by any reasonable definition. Something like "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" is the name of the whole run of the show. It has never been the name of any particular season.

I don't bother, if an original title includes season indicators or not. For me both solutions are OK. BUT including season indicators don't work until they are standardized!

We have three possibilities:
1. Original title without season indicators
2. Standardized season indicators (probably in all titles)
3. Distinguished fields for season and discs according title and edition (probably the best solution, but not reachable without programming and a rather big amount of work for transition)

And what are we doing; we are not able to proceed to any working solution but remain quarrelling, and some of us insist on their interpretion of the rules to vote down a working (and possible) interpretion of them.

(And, yes, I'm willingliy ignoring the very rare exception that Buffy season one is being produced in the same year as Buffy season 2.)

Agreed.

And sorry for bringing this up again, but this is a burning sore, which I can't resist, when CLT accuracy is invalidly used to justify any argument.

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What's discussed here on the last page is adapting profile data to serve a secondary tool, in this case the CLT.

But we don't even allow to adapt data to serve a primary purpose. Case in point: T4xi. If you don't know how the title is spelled on the cover, you'll never be able to find "Taxi 4" by title search.

But suddenly, just for the sake of CLT we're redefine the purpose of the Original Title field?

checked your statement by typing in Taxi 4 - 19 results in the on-line database. 8 have T4xi with original title of Taxi 4 and 11 just have Taxi 4 even though the DVD case title is T4xi. Typed in T4xi and got 11 results 2 have the DVD title and original title reversed. 4 do not have the original title. If contributors can't follow the rules what good are the rules.

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Then there's the issue that the season number is part of the original title by any reasonable definition.

Original title = onscreen title seems like a (possible) reasonable definition. This also has the upside that it allows the IMDb search in the program to work correctly. This may not be an important function to everybody, but it is part of the program, and it doesn't work if the original title contains a season indicator.

Not saying that this is a showstopper (no pun intended), but it's something to consider.

PS How Ænigma or Aenigma turned into this discussion is ... an enigma 

I take the blame for that.