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Will Windows XP run smooth with only 128MB? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 646 |
| Posted: | | | | Could help... On my setup, the task manager (CTRL+ALT+DEL -> Performance) shows: Totals: - Handles: ~5552 - Threads: 297 - Processes: 29 (20 norm, "clean install") Physical Memory (K): - Total: 1048048 (2x512 RAM) - Available: ~739672 - System Cache: ~178052 Commit Charge (K): - Total: ~188896 - Limit: 2521088 (-RAM=assigned swap area) In my case a waste of HD space. - Peak: 432000 (At start up) Kernel Memory (K): (Little fuzzy on what this is, exactly.) - Total: ~63276 - Paged: ~32944 - Nonpaged: 30336 WinXP Pro (SP2)/~2.1Ghz Haven't actually clocked it yet, but it boots fast | | | Last edited: by xyrano |
| | Ron | DVD Obermotz |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 168 |
| Posted: | | | | As a lot of others have said, XP with only 128 Meg Memory, will good ok (we have a lot of customer's running P1 & P2 with only 128 on XP)
But, if your mother board will allow it, I do recommend upgrading to 256 or higher. XP really starts to "feel" good at 512 and above.
FYI, my two XP machines are running 1G and 2G memery. While my Vista machines are running 2 G and 4Gig. | | | Premium member since 29 August 2002 ----
Proud owner of a Phillips 42PFL7862D since 27 Oct 2007 :-D |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,380 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting JonM: Quote: Is this a laptop then that we are discussing? He said he had Vaio, so that would be a Sony laptop. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 489 |
| Posted: | | | | My mother is running Window$ XP on her HP with only 128.
Of course all she does is email and endless games of Mah Jong. Yet she calls me 2-3 times a week to solve a simple problem.
(I think she is getting me back for all the trouble I caused when I was young! As they say paybacks are heck!)
Bobb | | | Do Cheshire Cats drink evaporated milk? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,694 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ron: Quote: As a lot of others have said, XP with only 128 Meg Memory, will good ok (we have a lot of customer's running P1 & P2 with only 128 on XP)
But, if your mother board will allow it, I do recommend upgrading to 256 or higher. XP really starts to "feel" good at 512 and above.
FYI, my two XP machines are running 1G and 2G memery. While my Vista machines are running 2 G and 4Gig. Over the years, I've noticed that while Windows may run (and I emphasize 'may') in the minimum amount of memory, it puts a hell of strain on the whole system that can cause things to break prematurely. Windows uses a swap file, and if there isn't enough RAM it will use virtual memory. The more VM it has to use, the slower it works, and the harder the hard drive has to work to take care of the I/O involved. When hard drives were smaller (measured in megs instead of gigs) that led to a lot of HDs dying early. It also puts a strain on the CPU, video card, cooling system, etc. So, I made it a practice with all my customers/clients to recommend a minimum of at least twice the RAM MS said was minimum, and if they could afford it, 3 or more times. A lot of them thought I was some kind of magician because of how much better it ran. Hardware is better today than it was then, but the same things apply. Increase the load and you stress the parts more than necessary. Sort of like putting a lawnmower engine in a big Caddy. It may move you down the road but it won't last as long as the regular engine will. Somebody said this was a notebook, and if it is, what I said goes double. All those parts are even smaller and more susceptible to overstressing. I would advise my clients in such cases to max out memory, because most notebooks don't run as much RAM as desktop PCs are capable of. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964 Make America Great Again! |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 81 |
| Posted: | | | | it is not a laptop. it is a normal desktop Sony Vaio pc. |
| | kemper | Vodka martini... shaken.. |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 402 |
| Posted: | | | | XP with 128?? will a Model T tow 80,000 pounds?..... | | | Last edited: by kemper |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,242 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting kemper: Quote: XP with 128?? will a Model T tow 80,000 pounds?..... Er yes if it's down hill all the way Steve |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,694 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting scottiew: Quote: it is not a laptop. it is a normal desktop Sony Vaio pc. OK. Wasn't aware they made a desktop Vaio. Have only seen the notebook types. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964 Make America Great Again! |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 811 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting scottiew: Quote: I know i need to upgrade and can't afford a new pc right now. i have the old, old Me and want to upgrade, but i have gotten conflicting reports as to if XP will run fast with only 128MB or RAM.
i know requirements are only 128MB.
are software packages even returnable if it doesn't work out?
thanks for any and all help. It might run, but it'll run like crap. Even 256 MB is barely adequate. Get at least 512 MB and XP will use around 380 MB or so to "breath" |
| Registered: March 16, 2007 | Posts: 280 |
| Posted: | | | | To answer the question on whether you can run the system on 128 MB of RAM: Probably. I once got a system using Win2K up and running on 64 MB of RAM with about 15 MB free for running programs at startup. I'm pretty sure I could get XP running in 128MB. However, to do so you need to be able to heavily optimize what all gets run on the system, and if you're not comfortable with RAM upgrades you certainly won't be able to work through those custom optimizations. Messing with that stuff when you don't know what you're doing can seriously screw up your system. For considering the RAM upgrade, I'd recommend going to http://www.crucial.com. Use their Memory Advisor Tool to figure out which type of RAM you need and how much your system can actually hold, plus a general idea on the cost (Crucial is a little bit on the expensive side, relatively speaking, but they provide quality products and have good customer service; also, you don't have to buy from them if you can find the same chips somewhere else cheaper, such as wherever you get the OS from). For example, if you had a Sony VAIO PCV-E204, you can have up to two 128MB sticks for about $37 each. There's also a Scan Your System thingy which may be easier for you to use as that will also tell you what type of RAM you already have and how many slots you have filled/free. Get as much as you can afford (after the cost of the OS), and will fit in your system. Before doing the install (and I'll echo that you really want to do a clean install), back up everything you can. Start going through every directory you have and backing it all up: music, pictures, program downloads, documents from the My Documents folder or elsewhere, bookmarks from the browser, etc. This is a long and tedious process. Go through everything at least twice, because you're sure to miss something the first time through. It's much easier if you have a second hard drive you can just copy everything too, or a second partition on the hard drive you have. Otherwise, start making CDs. And as for actually installing the new RAM, if you don't want to touch it yourself, just find a friend who's at all comfortable with computers. Installing RAM is pretty easy. If nothing else, take the computer and the RAM chips down to a local computer shop and have them put it in. It should be a trivial cost, if they even charge you at all. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 820 |
| Posted: | | | | I can assure the doubters that XP will run fine with 128MB of RAM. When it was first released we rolled out thousands of PCs with this configuration running every type of application imaginable. Thousands of other organisations did the same.
Apart from a relatively slow but acceptable boot up time it will run fine and multitask numerous applications. That saiid, all PCs that we currently rollout have 1GB RAM as a minimum. RAM will improve performance but isn't strictly necessay to run XP. You will be much better off on XP than ME. |
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