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Registered: March 23, 2011 | Posts: 462 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
2. I think Flåklypa saying this:
Quote: No. I don't think he should do anything. I think the ones who votes no should correct the formatting on the other profiles. If not, they should allow this contribution (at least they should not vote no). Talking especially about the part in the bold. I feel that comment on it's own is completely wrong. But, that sentences was not meant to stand alone. You can not just cut out one sentence and call it wrong on it's own. That so typical. You have to read it in context with my other posts. |
| Registered: March 23, 2011 | Posts: 462 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
Again. I must state. We are under no obligation to contribute. We can contribute as much or as little as we choose.
The only condition to contributing, the changes to the contribution must follow established rules. (I understand that does not happen a lot)
I can make a change to an overview (perse correcting a spelling mistake, or a capitalization error), and still not change the font formatting (italics or bold).
As long as the change is within the rules, we are obligated to vote yes (even for small changes).
If the changes do not follow the rules, we are obligated to vote no.
I also understand that there are some grey areas within the rules, and those we must vote upon our interpretation of the rules.
As for the OP's original statement
Since he is contributing a change to the overview, that goes against the rules, the voters (whether or not they contribute) are obligated to vote no. If the OP wishes to correct the others, to what is displayed on the cover, then the voters are obligated to vote yes. No. We are not obligated to vote. Where do you have that from? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Flåklypa: Quote: Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
2. I think Flåklypa saying this:
Quote: No. I don't think he should do anything. I think the ones who votes no should correct the formatting on the other profiles. If not, they should allow this contribution (at least they should not vote no). Talking especially about the part in the bold. I feel that comment on it's own is completely wrong. But, that sentences was not meant to stand alone. You can not just cut out one sentence and call it wrong on it's own. That so typical. You have to read it in context with my other posts. where do you get I was taking it as standing alone. Do you not know what especially means? What I said is.... I completely disagree with you. I especially disagree with that particular part. And people wonder why some of us makes just short and direct posts. Others seem to have a hard time comprehending the more drawn out explanations. | | | Pete |
| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Flåklypa: Quote: Quoting CharlieM:
Quote:
Again. I must state. We are under no obligation to contribute. We can contribute as much or as little as we choose.
The only condition to contributing, the changes to the contribution must follow established rules. (I understand that does not happen a lot)
I can make a change to an overview (perse correcting a spelling mistake, or a capitalization error), and still not change the font formatting (italics or bold).
As long as the change is within the rules, we are obligated to vote yes (even for small changes).
If the changes do not follow the rules, we are obligated to vote no.
I also understand that there are some grey areas within the rules, and those we must vote upon our interpretation of the rules.
As for the OP's original statement
Since he is contributing a change to the overview, that goes against the rules, the voters (whether or not they contribute) are obligated to vote no. If the OP wishes to correct the others, to what is displayed on the cover, then the voters are obligated to vote yes. No. We are not obligated to vote. Where do you have that from? I am sorry, I thought it was clear, and did not need clarification. I will clarify, If we choose to voteAs long as the change is within the rules, we are obligated to vote yes (even for small changes). If the changes do not follow the rules, we are obligated to vote no. I also understand that there are some grey areas within the rules, and those we must vote upon our interpretation of the rules. And to clarify We are under no obligation to contribute, to exercise our choice to vote on any contribution.If we choose to contribute to the online DB, those contributions must adhere to the rules. Of course, as has been stated numerous times, you are under no obligation to vote. You are under no obligation to contribute. As a matter of fact a person is not obligated to participate in the online portion of the program. I hope this is clear....... Charlie | | | Last edited: by CharlieM |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Flåklypa: Quote: Quoting CharlieM:
Quote:
Again. I must state. We are under no obligation to contribute. We can contribute as much or as little as we choose.
The only condition to contributing, the changes to the contribution must follow established rules. (I understand that does not happen a lot)
I can make a change to an overview (perse correcting a spelling mistake, or a capitalization error), and still not change the font formatting (italics or bold).
As long as the change is within the rules, we are obligated to vote yes (even for small changes).
If the changes do not follow the rules, we are obligated to vote no.
I also understand that there are some grey areas within the rules, and those we must vote upon our interpretation of the rules.
As for the OP's original statement
Since he is contributing a change to the overview, that goes against the rules, the voters (whether or not they contribute) are obligated to vote no. If the OP wishes to correct the others, to what is displayed on the cover, then the voters are obligated to vote yes. No. We are not obligated to vote. Where do you have that from? I see no where that he said we were obliged to vote. Only that if we do vote we are obliged to do so per the rules... not anything else. | | | Pete |
| Registered: March 23, 2011 | Posts: 462 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I see no where that he said we were obliged to vote. Only that if we do vote we are obliged to do so per the rules... not anything else. This is a comment to you, not to Charlie. He has explained what he meant an I respect that. But you are still going on and on about the same. I can not see that this has anything to do with my original question about "we are striving to be consistent". But since you can't see, it's here is bold: Quote: Again. I must state. We are under no obligation to contribute. We can contribute as much or as little as we choose.
The only condition to contributing, the changes to the contribution must follow established rules. (I understand that does not happen a lot)
I can make a change to an overview (perse correcting a spelling mistake, or a capitalization error), and still not change the font formatting (italics or bold).
As long as the change is within the rules, we are obligated to vote yes (even for small changes).
If the changes do not follow the rules, we are obligated to vote no.
I also understand that there are some grey areas within the rules, and those we must vote upon our interpretation of the rules.
As for the OP's original statement
Since he is contributing a change to the overview, that goes against the rules, the voters (whether or not they contribute) are obligated to vote no. If the OP wishes to correct the others, to what is displayed on the cover, then the voters are obligated to vote yes. So no one is obligated to vote in any circumstances. And if you are voting you can still vote neutral without breaking any rules (even if the contribution is against the rules). | | | Last edited: by No-way |
| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Flåklypa: Quote: Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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I see no where that he said we were obliged to vote. Only that if we do vote we are obliged to do so per the rules... not anything else.
This is a comment to you, not to Charlie. He has explained what he meant an I respect that. But you are still going on and on about the same.
I can not see that this has anything to do with my original question about "we are striving to be consistent".
But since you can't see, it's here is bold:
Quote: Again. I must state. We are under no obligation to contribute. We can contribute as much or as little as we choose.
The only condition to contributing, the changes to the contribution must follow established rules. (I understand that does not happen a lot)
I can make a change to an overview (perse correcting a spelling mistake, or a capitalization error), and still not change the font formatting (italics or bold).
As long as the change is within the rules, we are obligated to vote yes (even for small changes).
If the changes do not follow the rules, we are obligated to vote no.
I also understand that there are some grey areas within the rules, and those we must vote upon our interpretation of the rules.
As for the OP's original statement
Since he is contributing a change to the overview, that goes against the rules, the voters (whether or not they contribute) are obligated to vote no. If the OP wishes to correct the others, to what is displayed on the cover, then the voters are obligated to vote yes.
So no one is obligated to vote in any circumstances. And if you are voting you can still vote neutral without breaking any rules (even if the contribution is against the rules). You are correct, no one is obligated to vote. But if you vote neutral or don't vote no on knowingly incorrect data being contributed, to me, you are just as useless as the data being contributed. |
| Registered: March 23, 2011 | Posts: 462 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
You are correct, no one is obligated to vote. But if you vote neutral or don't vote no on knowingly incorrect data being contributed, to me, you are just as useless as the data being contributed. But the contributed data is not useless. I see only a change in formatting. If you ask me I would say that the one he wanted to contribute is a bit more useful because it is easier to read (at least for me it is). |
| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Flåklypa: Quote: Quoting ateo357:
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You are correct, no one is obligated to vote. But if you vote neutral or don't vote no on knowingly incorrect data being contributed, to me, you are just as useless as the data being contributed. But the contributed data is not useless. I see only a change in formatting. If you ask me I would say that the one he wanted to contribute is a bit more useful because it is easier to read (at least for me it is). Is it correct per the rules? No. So it's useless data. | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
| Registered: June 6, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 950 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: After reading this... my thoughts on the exchanges...
1. While direct, I seen absolutely nothing wrong with TheMadMartian's reply to the OP. He just answered it in a short and direct manner with correct information.
Back on the subject of the answer to the OP, you see nothing wrong with it, but, indeed, you would not. As an experienced contributor, you know and understand the rules and their intricacies. Over the years, you have read many clarifications offered by Ken Cole and others like you. However, if you were a much less experienced contributor, you would take the comment differently, learning little from it. Keeping with the teaching analogy, a teacher can be very short and direct when correcting a wrong colleague. When a student is wrong, however, one should thrive to make him learn, by giving explanations, even if these explanations have already been given many times before. If we as a community want others to contribute (and have fun doing it), we have to develop a more welcoming attitude. |
| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Wigram: Quote: Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote: After reading this... my thoughts on the exchanges...
1. While direct, I seen absolutely nothing wrong with TheMadMartian's reply to the OP. He just answered it in a short and direct manner with correct information.
Back on the subject of the answer to the OP, you see nothing wrong with it, but, indeed, you would not. As an experienced contributor, you know and understand the rules and their intricacies. Over the years, you have read many clarifications offered by Ken Cole and others like you. However, if you were a much less experienced contributor, you would take the comment differently, learning little from it.
Keeping with the teaching analogy, a teacher can be very short and direct when correcting a wrong colleague. When a student is wrong, however, one should thrive to make him learn, by giving explanations, even if these explanations have already been given many times before.
If we as a community want others to contribute (and have fun doing it), we have to develop a more welcoming attitude. and leading by example is the best way. So everyone contribute more than they do now. Some of you are nonexistint. |
| Registered: March 23, 2011 | Posts: 462 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with Wigram. It's so true. every word of it. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Flåklypa: Quote: ... But since you can't see... I saw and understood everything. I just don't agree with the responses you made. You do realize people can, do and are allowed to voice their own opinion... even when they disagree with others. Just like you have the right to disagree with us and agree with Wigram... I have just as much right to disagree with you and agree with Martian, Charlie and Ateo's posts. | | | Pete |
| Registered: March 23, 2011 | Posts: 462 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: Quoting Flåklypa:
Quote: ... But since you can't see...
I saw and understood everything. No you didn't see it. You said it yourself: Quote: I see no where that he said we were obliged to vote. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Wigram: Quote: Back on the subject of the answer to the OP, you see nothing wrong with it, but, indeed, you would not. As an experienced contributor, you know and understand the rules and their intricacies. Over the years, you have read many clarifications offered by Ken Cole and others like you. However, if you were a much less experienced contributor, you would take the comment differently, learning little from it.
Keeping with the teaching analogy, a teacher can be very short and direct when correcting a wrong colleague. When a student is wrong, however, one should thrive to make him learn, by giving explanations, even if these explanations have already been given many times before. First, I am not a teacher and he is not a student. Second, I never told him he was wrong, I simply answered his question about being consistent. And third, what further explanation TO THE QUESTION HE ACTUALLY ASKED was required? The truth of the matter is, I gave him the correct answer to his question and, rather than following your own advice and adding something constructive, you have chosen to criticize the manner in which the answer was given. Give me a break. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: | | | | Every key holder has the right to vote. It is an obligation to each person to exercise his or hers rights, here and in life, to better themselves as long as it is within the rules (here and in life). If you decide not to exercise your right, you are just denying yourself of what is due you.
To the OP, don't let the posts keep you from contributing, this is how it is, most of us seem to be terse and rude at times, Except me, I'm terse and rude most of the time. You'll figure out who's mostly BS and ignore them. Keep on truckin' |
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