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Made for TV Movies or TV Specials, Rating equals what?
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Battlestar Galactica: The Plan uses the Film Rating System.
This one originally premiered on DVD/Blu-ray so the film rating system could be correct.
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That is something we been over and over again within multiple threads. There is those of us that feels it is just more accurate to have it listed as Television.

It would be a lot more accurate to have three choices; Film, Televison and None. And for "None" the available ratings should be "NR" and "Unrated".

But of course that's a design flaw that only Ken could correct.
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Heard about stranger things.

One problem with this approach comes to mind though:

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- Feature was originally a TV-presentation
- Feature has no TV rating
- For what reason ever the MPAA took a look at the DVD-release though and gave it a rating, which gets printed on the cover.

This is not a problem should Ever come up.  I have had several, very pleasant and informative email exchanges with the MPAA.  They only rate films submitted to them for theatrical release.  They do not rate films for home video release.
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Heard about stranger things.

One problem with this approach comes to mind though:

Scenario:
- Feature was originally a TV-presentation
- Feature has no TV rating
- For what reason ever the MPAA took a look at the DVD-release though and gave it a rating, which gets printed on the cover.

This is not a problem should Ever come up.  I have had several, very pleasant and informative email exchanges with the MPAA.  They only rate films submitted to them for theatrical release.  They do not rate films for home video release.


Wrong. They will rate any film submitted to them. It doesn't have to be a theatrical release film. They do not rate all theatrical release films either.
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Wrong. They will rate any film submitted to them. It doesn't have to be a theatrical release film. They do not rate all theatrical release films either.


I'm pretty sure of that too. I have quite a few MPAA-rated low budget movies that certainly never ever had even a limited theatrical release, and were either TV premieres (like on HBO) or just direct-to-video.

Around the World in 80 Days (1989) was a 4½+ hour TV mini-series, and got an MPAA PG rating at a later point. I seriously doubt it was ever shown theatrically. I have several other lengthy TV Miniseries that got MPAA ratings also...so it's not even rare.

When I've contacted the MPAA about things before, they never seem to offer any satisfactory explanation to what you're enquiring about.
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Wrong. They will rate any film submitted to them.

I am just telling you what I was told. Whether you want to believe it or not is up to you.
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It doesn't have to be a theatrical release film. They do not rate all theatrical release films either.

Never said that they did, now, did I?
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Around the World in 80 Days (1989) was a 4½+ hour TV mini-series, and got an MPAA PG rating at a later point. I seriously doubt it was ever shown theatrically. I have several other lengthy TV Miniseries that got MPAA ratings also...so it's not even rare.

According to their site, Around the World in 80 Days (1989) did not receive an MPAA rating.
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When I've contacted the MPAA about things before, they never seem to offer any satisfactory explanation to what you're enquiring about.

I am sorry, but that wasn't my experience.  I fairly direct questions and got direct answers...one being that every film they have rated is listed on their site.  As I said to ateo, whether or not you choose to believe it is up to you, but I see no reason why they would lie to me.
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According to their site, Around the World in 80 Days (1989) did not receive an MPAA rating.


Then the DVD of Around the World in 80 Days is lying. It has an MPAA logo (PG) rating and even rating details of "Sensuality, Adventure Action and Language"

But try these, which definitely are on their website:

Canterville Ghost, The (1996) That was definitely a TV movie that never received a theatrical release, and the MPAA definitely rated it.

Summer of Fear (1978). TV movie, later rated as "PG-13" by them. They even have the wrong release year (2002 - they just used the DVD release date) on there. It was only submitted to the MPAA for a rating to slap on the DVD by Artisan.

Storm of the Century (1999) 4+ hour TV Miniseries. The MPAA rated it.

The Langoliers (1995) TV movie rated by the MPAA.

Nero (2005) 3+ hour TV Miniseries, rated by the MPAA.

Nightmare at Bitter Creek (1988) TV Movie rated by the MPAA. They even have the release year listed wrong on their website.

The Odyssey (1997) 3 hour TV Miniseries, rated by the MPAA.

Rose Red (2002) 4+ hour TV Miniseries, rated by the MPAA.

Gulliver's Travels (1996) 3+ hour TV Miniseries, rated by the MPAA.

Mazes and Monsters (1982) TV Movie later submitted to the MPAA for the DVD release rating.

Visitors of the Night (1999) TV Movie, rated by the MPAA.

I could go on and on with examples of others in my collection, but you'll forgive me if I'm hesitant to believe what they told you.
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Wrong. They will rate any film submitted to them.

I am just telling you what I was told. Whether you want to believe it or not is up to you.
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It doesn't have to be a theatrical release film. They do not rate all theatrical release films either.

Never said that they did, now, did I?



Seriously don't you read what you post.

seems to be a straight forward statement.  "They only rate films submitted to them for theatrical release.  They do not rate films for home video release".

I have many video releases that have been rated and are straight to video or TV/Cable releases.

maybe you should do like we do for BY and use more than 1 source.
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Seriously don't you read what you post.

seems to be a straight forward statement.  "They only rate films submitted to them for theatrical release.  They do not rate films for home video release".

I have many video releases that have been rated and are straight to video or TV/Cable releases.

maybe you should do like we do for BY and use more than 1 source.

Of course I read what I post, do you or do you just look for things to argue about?  As I said in my follow up post, I was only telling you what I was told by the person at CARA.  They are the peopl who do the actual rating for the MPAA, so there was no reason for me to look ay further.  Is it possible that she misspoke or I misunderstood her? Of course it is, we're both human.  I'm man enough to admit when I am wrong and, in tins case, it appears that I was.  Such is life.
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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Seriously don't you read what you post.

seems to be a straight forward statement.  "They only rate films submitted to them for theatrical release.  They do not rate films for home video release".

I have many video releases that have been rated and are straight to video or TV/Cable releases.

maybe you should do like we do for BY and use more than 1 source.

Of course I read what I post, do you or do you just look for things to argue about?  As I said in my follow up post, I was only telling you what I was told by the person at CARA.  They are the peopl who do the actual rating for the MPAA, so there was no reason for me to look ay further.  Is it possible that she misspoke or I misunderstood her? Of course it is, we're both human.  I'm man enough to admit when I am wrong and, in tins case, it appears that I was.  Such is life.



I'm only looking for the truth. You made a statement that was incorrect. And to me it seemed as a matter of fact, no question about it type statement. And when you were called out on it being incorrect, you took part of my post out of text and said you never claimed to have said it.

You and others seem to think what your opinions and statements are, are to be held as how things should be, no questions asked. The almighty know-all to all things pertaining to films. Just my opinion just like what you post is your opinion.
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