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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRizor
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I personally would credit them as Herself (Granddaughter) or Himself (US Senator) or something similar. I don't really think the Senators need a credited as name unless their credited as "Senator John Doe" or whatever. I'd still include US Senator in the role.
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I do believe you are completely ignoring the rule of exactly as credited... including the role names exactly as credited. I see anything like this come through for any of the documentaries I own it would definitely be an instant no vote.

The parentheses are no where in the credits... so against the rules.
Himself/Herself is not in the credits... so against the rules.

There is roles shown... so they must match exactly per rules.
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I do believe you are completely ignoring the rule of exactly as credited... including the role names exactly as credited. I see anything like this come through for any of the documentaries I own it would definitely be an instant no vote.

The parentheses are no where in the credits... so against the rules.
Himself/Herself is not in the credits... so against the rules.

There is roles shown... so they must match exactly per rules.

I certainly understand your point of view, but I'm in the camp that doesn't necessarily consider these "roles". Following that line of thought, the rules also say you can assign roles per identification, etc. if none given. In that case, Himself, Herself, Interviewee, etc. would be fair game.

Going back to Caleb's comments, I don't think listing "Granddaughter" or whatever is any more helpful than "Herself" as at first glance it looks like she's an actress playing the role of a Granddaughter. On the other hand, "Herself (Granddaughter)" is pretty darned helpful.
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I certainly understand your point of view, but I'm in the camp that doesn't necessarily consider these "roles". Following that line of thought, the rules also say you can assign roles per identification, etc. if none given. In that case, Himself, Herself, Interviewee, etc. would be fair game.

Going back to Caleb's comments, I don't think listing "Granddaughter" or whatever is any more helpful than "Herself" as at first glance it looks like she's an actress playing the role of a Granddaughter. On the other hand, "Herself (Granddaughter)" is pretty darned helpful.

I agree completely with the "darned helpful" part.

I also think that "Himself (US Senator)" is also reasonable especially since there are no real credits except as indicated in the snapshots. So you've persuaded me:

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Pump Audio is a music licensing agency that was acquired by Getty. As they didn't actually write or arrange anything, I'm guessing they don't get a credit.
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On pump Audio.. wouldn't this come under this rule?...

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List individual credits only, not company name credits. Exception: If a company name heads a group of crew, use the Group divider to enter the company name.


So the way I read that it wouldn't matter if they wrote the music... if they don't list the individuals there is no credit... right?
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Going back to Caleb's comments, I don't think listing "Granddaughter" or whatever is any more helpful than "Herself" as at first glance it looks like she's an actress playing the role of a Granddaughter. On the other hand, "Herself (Granddaughter)" is pretty darned helpful.

Well taken, but that relegates the actual role as given in the film or its credits to a parenthetical, instead of adding the "Self" information in that manner.  This is why I suggested, years ago, a flag denoting "Himself/Herself," so we can give the role as credited and record the fact that this role is that of the participant's identity in relation to the subject, rather than a character in a play.
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his is why I suggested, years ago, a flag denoting "Himself/Herself," so we can give the role as credited and record the fact that this role is that of the participant's identity in relation to the subject, rather than a character in a play.
That sounds like a great idea to me. 
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I agree - that would be a good solution.
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