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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 554 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
EAN on front cover?  Please read my text more carefully. Sorry, did that and you are correct. Still my question stands: If it isn't a Slip-Cover, what is it? Custom or Cardboard garbage that can be ignored. And if it can be ignored because it's only garbage (comparable to a shrink-wrap?): Wouldn't the consequence have to be that we could not use the Scan, Overview, Media Company, etc from this backcover? And when using the backcover-scan (and thereby accepting the hull as part of the case), wouldn't the logical consequence have to be to use the front part too? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote:
If it isn't a Slip-Cover, what is it?
Custom or Cardboard garbage that can be ignored. Cardboard garbage that can be ignored except for back cover scan  |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | Funny how while most of the replies here say "no" the poll results are in favor of considering it a slip cover. I think Lewis_Prothero has a good point. If you can't use part of it, then you shouldn't be able to use any of it. | | | | Lori |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote:
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EAN on front cover? Please read my text more carefully.
Sorry, did that and you are correct.
Still my question stands:
If it isn't a Slip-Cover, what is it?
Custom or Cardboard garbage that can be ignored.
And if it can be ignored because it's only garbage (comparable to a shrink-wrap?):
Wouldn't the consequence have to be that we could not use the Scan, Overview, Media Company, etc from this backcover?
And when using the backcover-scan (and thereby accepting the hull as part of the case), wouldn't the logical consequence have to be to use the front part too? Your question is irrelevant. Is it a Slip cover? The answer is no. I'm not dismissing your question or POV but that is pretty much what it boils down to IMO. As far as the cover scans, these j-cards often come with Steelbooks, and yes, I do scan the fronts with the J-cards. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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| | Posted: | | | | I think of these like those little slips of paper they glue to the back of some digipaks to include additional info for legal purposes. Easily removable and we don't document them, but we still scan them as they're deemed part of the cover. | | | My DVD/Blu-ray Collection
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think the thread title says it. A partial slip cover is still a slip cover. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting iPatsa: Quote:
I think the thread title says it. A partial slip cover is still a slip cover. Like engine + transmission = car? |
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| | Posted: | | | | My opinion on the matter... Still a slip cover for our purposes... slip cover should be checked. | | | | Pete |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
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I think the thread title says it. A partial slip cover is still a slip cover.
Like engine + transmission = car? Not quite. More like: Is a car still a car if you remove the windshield? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting iPatsa: Quote:
I think the thread title says it. A partial slip cover is still a slip cover. Well that is up to interpretation based on the OP. The J type do not slip over anything. They are held solely on by the plastic that encompasses the package. They do not "slip" over the DVD/Blu-ray itself. These are akin to how some sets have extra documentation on the back if the package that is not part of the case/packaging. Now we should make sure these are scanned like we do when these types of additions are in a release, but they are not slip covers IMO. The HBO releases like "Band of Brothers" and "The Pacific" are way closer to Slip Covers than these (and those are not allowed to be slipcovers), they at least have a portion that slips over the packaging. These don't slip over anything. | | | | Last edited: by Scooter1836 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Scooter1836: Quote:
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I think the thread title says it. A partial slip cover is still a slip cover.
Well that is up to interpretation based on the OP. The J type do not slip over anything. They are held solely on by the plastic that encompasses the package. They do not "slip" over the DVD/Blu-ray itself. These are akin to how some sets have extra documentation on the back if the package that is not part of the case/packaging.
Now we should make sure these are scanned like we do when these types of additions are in a release, but they are not slip covers IMO.
The HBO releases like "Band of Brothers" and "The Pacific" are way closer to Slip Covers than these (and those are not allowed to be slipcovers), they at least have a portion that slips over the packaging. These don't slip over anything. Agreed 100% | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I hear you but 2/3 of the voters still disagree.
So just what kind of cover is it? Because if it's not part of the cover we shouldn't be scanning it. And if it is part of the cover, it should be so noted. Maybe custom if nothing else fits. But just ignoring it doesn't make sense, unless we really ignore all of it including scans.
Imo, slip cover is the closest thing we have of noting this correctly. It's not perfect but better than nothing. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting iPatsa: Quote:
Because if it's not part of the cover we shouldn't be scanning it. This, to me, is a key element here. Indeed: if it's not part of the packaging, then it shouldn't be seen on the cover scans. Like stickers, for instance. But this desperately needs to be scanned: it's the only thing that actually has an overview, a rating, a UPC/EAN-barcode, and so on. Since we scan it, it must be part of the packaging, but it's clearly not *just* a Digipak, or *just* a SteelBook - it's one of those with a cardboard slip. If we scan it, it must be part of the case type. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting iPatsa: Quote:
I hear you but 2/3 of the voters still disagree.
So just what kind of cover is it? Because if it's not part of the cover we shouldn't be scanning it. And if it is part of the cover, it should be so noted. Maybe custom if nothing else fits. But just ignoring it doesn't make sense, unless we really ingore all of it including scans.
Imo, slip cover is the closest thing we have of noting this correctly. It's not perfect but better than nothing. 2/3 isn't overwhelming, and I'd disagree, doing nothing is better than putting bad information into the database. It's a J-card. It should be scanned as that is how it looks when you purchase the Disc. But why incorrectly identify it as a slip cover in the database when it clearly isn't? Quoting T!M: Quote:
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Because if it's not part of the cover we shouldn't be scanning it.
This, to me, is a key element here. Indeed: if it's not part of the packaging, then it shouldn't be seen on the cover scans. Like stickers, for instance. But this desperately needs to be scanned: it's the only thing that actually has an overview, a rating, a UPC/EAN-barcode, and so on. Since we scan it, it must be part of the packaging, but it's clearly not *just* a Digipak, or *just* a SteelBook - it's one of those with a cardboard slip. If we scan it, it must be part of the case type. I see your argument, but disagree with your conclusion. It's not a slip cover therefore it shouldn't be marked as one. Whether or not it should be included in the cover scan has absolutely nothing to do whether or not the slipcover box should be checked. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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