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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually there is a reason for decline. If you search Amazon you'll find Bear Eats is available to buy on its own, not part of a box set.
So you're running into the limitation/rules of profiler that we can only have one title under an EAN/locality and the first legitimate title to be entered on that basis is the one that stays in the database.
Annoying as it is you should withdraw your contribution. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Oh so the one you are replacing (while is part of the box set)... the profile is an original release of the disc by itself?
Yeah... unfortunately per the rules it must be the first release for the UPC that stays in the database. So unfortunately you will have to keep the parent profile local only. Sorry. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: June 2, 2007 | | Posts: 52 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually, I have checked the single disc release, and it has a different EAN/UPC which is:
5060162451671
That profile is also on dvdP.
So the one on the profile is part of a split up box set in which they all share the same EAN/UPC. So the box set (and it's contents is:
5060162452241
and the Bear Eats single dvd release is:
5060162451671
So the answer should be to update the profile properly with the box set as the original contributor bought or just added one title from a set, whist the profile for the proper single release is correct. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not necessarily. There is many MANY times a disc is released with multiple UPC codes at the same time. So it is very possible that this one was released with that UPC during the original release. So changing it very well could be changing the profile of people that got the single release with that UPC number.
There is even evidence to support this. I downloaded the profile you are working on. Plus I looked up the set on Amazon's UK site. The single disc (with your UPC) was done in 2008... Can see this in the profile as well as on the cover art itself saying the copyright for the package design is 2008. So that disc with that upc number has been around since 2008. But checking the Amazon site the set you have wasn't released until 2011... October 17, 2011 per product details section of the page.
So what you have is indeed a re-release... which means the profile should not be changed. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | There's a question as to why somebody who owned the box set would only contribute one of the titles in it, we've had the ability to contribute via disc id far longer than the initial submission for both these profiles.
If I was you I'd PM one of the contributors to ask them whether they purchased it as an individual title. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: June 2, 2007 | | Posts: 52 |
| | Posted: | | | | Weather or not I'd get a true response is a different question.
I have seen that the Bear Eats dvd is available separately and double checked it's corresponding bar code, and it is a completely different code.
The original contributor only added one from the set, which was probably unknown to him that it was meant to be part of the set in question, which I have provided photographs of and scans.
I have withdrawn the contribution for a minute and I'll recompile it with all the information about the set and the separate disc including the separate bar codes for each, as the set has the same bar code for the slipcase and all three discs inside, and the separate Bear Eats dvd has a completely different bar code that is already in the database. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Wow, nice of you to assume somebody would lie to you without even trying to speak to them.
If you look at one of the contributors collection list you'll see they appear to own both copies, which may confirm that one is part of a boxset, I can't see why they would buy two individual copies, so what harm would it do you to contact them and ask a simple question? | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: June 2, 2007 | | Posts: 52 |
| | Posted: | | | | To be honest, I'm not a very trusting person, and I can see what has happened in looking at their collection. Notice that Patagonia and Sahara both have unique bar codes too completely different from the set that contains the same discs. It's only common sense to put it together when I have the information in black and white in front of me. This is what I'll put regarding the confusion with the submission, as then there will be a completely separate profile for each of the single discs and one for the box set that all contain the correct information: ////The online contribution was only for one disc in this three disc set. The set is a three disc set and the EAN on the slipcase (which I have scanned at 600dpi) and the three discs that it contains are exactly the same.:  I have contributed the scans of the original slipcase for the set, the information is straight off the back of the slipcase There appears to be some confusion since the original contributor posted up Bear Eats as a single dvd, when in fact it is part of a box set that contains that plus two discs, all of which (including the slipcase) share the same bar code: http://www.invelos.com/ProfileLinks.aspx?id=5060162452241.4 Here is the set (bar code for the set and all discs in it is shared - 5-060162-452241): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bear-Grylls-Born-Survivor-Discs/dp/B003BO72I0 There is also a profile already made for the single version of Bear Eats already in the database with the correct bar code for the single version of this disc: http://wwww.dvdprofiler.com/ProfileLinks.aspx?id=5060162451671.4 This is the disc available separate from the set with a different bar code that is already in the dvd profiler database (The bar code of the single release is completely different from that of the one in the set - 5-060162-451671): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bear-Grylls-Born-Survivor-Eats/dp/B001DCKXH4/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1373727674&sr=1-1&keywords=bear+eats If it get's declined again, could someone please pm me to explain what I have done wrong. Cheers.//// In the mean time, I'll contact the original contributor and direct him to this thread. Though I'm not sure what you hope I will achieve out of doing so other than letting him know what the correct bar code is for the disc that has been submitted. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting nero041001: Quote:
In the mean time, I'll contact the original contributor and direct him to this thread. Though I'm not sure what you hope I will achieve out of doing so other than letting him know what the correct bar code is for the disc that has been submitted. What you might achieve is knowledge. 3 users made contributions for this title. I find it hard to believe that all three made the same exact mistake. Isn't it possible that the first disc was released as a single release, in 2008, then later re-released as a box set under the same EAN? This wouldn't be the first time that happened. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is indeed the way I see it Martian... as I said in the post above... Quote:
There is even evidence to support this. I downloaded the profile you are working on. Plus I looked up the set on Amazon's UK site. The single disc (with your UPC) was done in 2008... Can see this in the profile as well as on the cover art itself saying the copyright for the package design is 2008. So that disc with that upc number has been around since 2008. But checking the Amazon site the set you have wasn't released until 2011... October 17, 2011 per product details section of the page. I still remain in the opinion that this should not get written over. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: June 2, 2007 | | Posts: 52 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Box set was also released in 2008.
In my opinion, it should as it is incorrect.
The profile for the original release is here on the database released in 2008:
http://wwww.dvdprofiler.com/ProfileLinks.aspx?id=5060162451671.4
The one from the box set is also here, the same, but it's not the box set as it should be:
http://www.invelos.com/ProfileLinks.aspx?id=5060162452241.4
Sahara and Patagonia are 2007, it states this on their artwork. The box set states 2008, Amazon tell you the date they started selling it.
I have just checked and it states that the Bear Eats wasn't released out of the box set as a single disc until 1st of June 2013, have a look:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bear-Grylls-Born-Survivor-Eats/dp/B001DCKXH4/ref=pd_bxgy_d_h__img_y
The evidence is clear enough to me.
I have contacted the original contributor, and he has not got back to me yet, so can you just wait and see what he has to say please? | | | | Last edited: by nero041001 |
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