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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | And how do we define the start of a film? So only if we also cut off every disgusting longish DVD Publisher/Licensor/Distributor intro forced to the feature's running time. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't remember ever seeing any of that stuff added to the running time of the film. If it does happen... in my experience it must be rather rare. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | The first chapter mark is usually at the start of the movie. There might be exceptions but none that I can remember. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
What if, hypothetically, a DVD ran for 90 more minutes after the last credit rolled at 90 minutes. You'd really make the running time 180 minutes? Counterquestion: What if (in another hypothetical film) there were opening credits followed by 4 minutes of black screen and no sound, next you have 94 minutes of "conventional" feature followed by the endcredits. Would you subtract the 4 minutes from the Running Time? Why should it matter when the black screen is to be seen? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not the same thing... in your hypothetical exemple that would be a director choice to do it that way and the facto that would be part of the movie. That would be a weird editorial choice, but maybe he would do it to protest against the spectators leaving the theatre too soon. In the case we talk about it's an error in the DVD authoring process not the same thing at all. But I think you want to play picky with us in that case because the forum is without controversy since some times  | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote:
Quoting Alien Redrum:
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What if, hypothetically, a DVD ran for 90 more minutes after the last credit rolled at 90 minutes. You'd really make the running time 180 minutes?
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What if (in another hypothetical film) there were opening credits followed by 4 minutes of black screen and no sound, next you have 94 minutes of "conventional" feature followed by the endcredits. Would you subtract the 4 minutes from the Running Time?
Why should it matter when the black screen is to be seen? No I would not as the movie hadn't started yet. Now if there were 4 minutes of blank before anything (production splash screens, etc), I would remove them. See, answering a question with an answer instead of another question isn't hard at all. You could probably do it if you tried hard enough. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. | | | | Last edited: by Alien Redrum |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
See, answering a question with an answer instead of another question isn't hard at all. You could probably do it if you tried hard enough. My bad, I thought that from my counterquestion it was clear that the answer to your question would be "Yes". But you haven't answered the second part part of my question. This is becoming even more important since you are willing to subtract "blank" parts from the beginning and/or ending, but not from the middle. So in how far does it make any difference where the black screen is located? Quoting Jimmy S: Quote:
In the case we talk about it's an error in the DVD authoring process And you know this because of what? We don't even know which title we are talking about, so how can you be sure that it's the fault of the manufacturer and not the intent of the director? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote:
And you know this because of what? Because it is... Everytime a case like that happen it's an authoring error, no need to know of what film we talk about or to own a Ph.D. in cinema to know that. It's my last post on this, it's evident that for some unknown reasons you have decided to create a controversy where none exist. | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote:
Quoting Alien Redrum:
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See, answering a question with an answer instead of another question isn't hard at all. You could probably do it if you tried hard enough.
But you haven't answered the second part part of my question.
This is becoming even more important since you are willing to subtract "blank" parts from the beginning and/or ending, but not from the middle.
So in how far does it make any difference where the black screen is located? 423 minutes and not a minute more. After that, I deduct!  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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| Registered: June 6, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | I just finished reading all the posts in the thread (been away for a few days) and I'm flabbergasted that nobody ever asked the real question; why, but why would anybody watch those 210 seconds of black screen after the very end of the credits...?  Quoting SwissFilm: Quote:
Hello
Today I prepared a DVD to contribute. Backcover tells 95 minutes and it runs also 95 minutes, but:
At 91:33 all end credits are over and the music stopped. From then for 3 1/2 minutes just black screen, empty, no sound nothing. I don't know why they put 3 1/2 minutes with nothing than black screen at the end of the film. I decided the film is 92 minutes and not 95 minutes. What do you think about this?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,005 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote:
I don't know why they put 3 1/2 minutes with nothing than black screen at the end of the film. Is there by any chance an audio commentary? I had once the case, that the film continued with black screen, because they weren't finished with the audio commentary and didn't want to just cut them off. | | | 
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