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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yup... definitely correct. No where does it say to use the capitalization from the front cover. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Yup... definitely correct. No where does it say to use the capitalization from the front cover. Definitely is much too strong of a word IMO. Another case where the rule is at least somewhat vague. I did vote to approve the profile, even though I would keep it as 'the' in my local regardless as at the time I voted I thought the contribution was within the rules. But after hearing everything I'd be apt to think it should be 'the' instead of 'The' Another question that could easily be cleared up by invelos in a matter of seconds. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | The definitely statement was about what Lewis Prothero said in his edit... Quote:
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Being a Non-Native Speaker I miss some of the subtleties of the English language.
But I always thought that there was a difference between "Check" and "Use".
Obviously I am wrong here. The rest is how I read the rules so how I vote and contribute. Sorry I wasn't clear. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: December 14, 2010 |  Posts: 90 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have always read the "Check capitalization of the title" rule as "Check capitalization of the title you are contributing against the title capitalization rules" - after all, we are talking about "contribution rules" here.
Specific rules for English and non-English titles are then laid out in a subsequent chapter. |
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| Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | But surely it DOES say use the title from the front cover and THEN to check the capitalization. Why would you check that somewhere else?
I quote from the Rules...
Title
Use the title from the front cover.
Never add distinguishing factors to the title (such as "Widescreen" or "Special Edition"). Use the Edition field for these.Check capitalization of the title. ... | | | | Last edited: by GreyHulk |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've voted and decided on "something else" - which is "I don't care".  |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | I tend to agree with GreyHulk, especially since we are suppose to copy the synopsis word for word, warts and all, but with titles you are supposed to correct the grammar? If it's this one: http://www.dvdempire.com/465359/my-father-the-hero-movie.html, the credit block has a comma "My Father, The Hero". ZOMG! | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | There is no possessive... so going by the rules it don't matter what the credit block has.
And we are not correcting grammar... we are following the rules on capitalization only... there is no mention of correcting grammar or spelling or anything like that. Just what capitalization to use. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
I tend to agree with GreyHulk, especially since we are suppose to copy the synopsis word for word, warts and all, but with titles you are supposed to correct the grammar? One rule has nothing to do with the other. The title rule tells us to USE the title from the front cover, then goes on to tell us how it should be entered. The overview rule tells us to copy the overview from the back of the DVD case exactly as written. Two completely different rules for two completely different data fields. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | I still would have no problem voting for My Father The Hero. Like I said, I tend to agree with GreyHulk's interpretation of the rules. I of course would change my mind when Ken clarifies otherwise.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GreyHulk: Quote:
But surely it DOES say use the title from the front cover and THEN to check the capitalization. Why would you check that somewhere else?
I quote from the Rules...
Title
Use the title from the front cover.
Never add distinguishing factors to the title (such as "Widescreen" or "Special Edition"). Use the Edition field for these.Check capitalization of the title. ... Also from the rules... For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not.You will note it does not say, for English titles in all caps or all lower case. So, when the rules say "check capitalization of the title," they mean that we shouldn't enter it 'as is' but based on the clarifications that follow. If the title on the front cover is 'Lord Of The Rings', we enter it as 'Lord of the Rings'. If the title on the front cover is 'My Father The Hero', we enter it as 'My Father the Hero'. There is a similar clarification for non-English titles. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
I still would have no problem voting for My Father The Hero. Like I said, I tend to agree with GreyHulk's interpretation of the rules. If his interpretation is correct, then we can ignore everything that follows "Use the title from the front cover." I mean, it does say use the title from the front cover and then everything else. If we can ignore the part that says "For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc.," can't we just ignore it all or am I missing something here?  As a side note, so that nobody accuses me of trying to impose my personal preference, I did state, back on page one, that I did not like this particular rule.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
I still would have no problem voting for My Father The Hero.
I of course would change my mind when Ken clarifies otherwise. Ken has already clarified: Quote:
voting "Yes" to a contribution which violates these Contribution Rules should also be avoided. --------------- |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Quoting Alien Redrum:
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I still would have no problem voting for My Father The Hero.
I of course would change my mind when Ken clarifies otherwise.
Ken has already clarified:
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voting "Yes" to a contribution which violates these Contribution Rules should also be avoided.
--------------- And there are plenty of people who vote No also violating contribution rules. Vote per rules, not preference. |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Quoting scotthm:
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Quoting Alien Redrum:
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I still would have no problem voting for My Father The Hero.
I of course would change my mind when Ken clarifies otherwise.
Ken has already clarified:
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voting "Yes" to a contribution which violates these Contribution Rules should also be avoided.
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And there are plenty of people who vote No also violating contribution rules. Vote per rules, not preference. LOL at you snipping Like I said, I tend to agree with GreyHulk's interpretation of the rules.Obviously I feel they need to be clarified, Mr. Ollie OutOfContext. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
LOL at you snipping Like I said, I tend to agree with GreyHulk's interpretation of the rules.
Obviously I feel they need to be clarified, Mr. Ollie OutOfContext. This struck me as just a tad ironic as the interpretation you agree with, as far as I can tell, only works if you 'snip' one section of the rules. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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