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Watchmen: Collector's Edition: Box set?
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The rules don't require it to be listed as a bonus feature, only that it be a bonus feature film.  This is not being sold as "The Watchmen and The Watchmen Graphic Novel."  It is simply, "Watchmen: The Ultimate Cut."


That's true of what Alien posted, but not the edition I'm talking about. See here. The Ultimate Cut isn't even mentioned on the front.
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Doesn't change anything ace. It can be dealt with through the bonus feature film.
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What about it makes the Watchmen ultimate cut the main featured film rather than part of a collection of all things Watchmen? There are as many special features about the graphic novel as the movie and they are given roughly equal billing on the cover.
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Oh good grief. Want to argue  sys trek iv being a comedy.  I think that's probably a personal call, ace. Is it not called ultimate edition, or something similar, to me that would put the extended cut first, but that's me.
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Of course it helps that disc one is the ultimate cut. 
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"One Complete Set"
"4-Disc Collector's Set"

Something tells me this is a set.
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Is it not called ultimate edition, or something similar, to me that would put the extended cut first, but that's me.


It isn't. It's called the collector's edition.
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That's good enough, ace.
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"One Complete Set"
"4-Disc Collector's Set"

Something tells me this is a set.

I have a few releases that use the word 'Set' and, while some are actual multi-movie sets...

  • Alien Anthology: Limited Edition Collector's Set

  • Death Race: Unrated 2-Movie Box Set

  • The Lion King Trilogy: Collector's Set

  • Men in Black Trilogy: Limited Edition Giftset


  • most are not...

  • Angels & Demons: Two-Disc Theatrical & Extended Limited Edition Gift Set

  • The Amazing Spider-Man: Limited Edition Blu-ray Gift Set

  • Batman Begins: Limited Edition Gift Set

  • The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian: 2-Disc Set

  • Hellboy II: The Golden Army: Collector's Set

  • The Smurfs: 3-Disc Holiday Gift Set

  • Star Trek: Limited Edition Blu-ray Gift Set

  • Terminator 2: Judgment Day: Limited Edition Complete Collector's Set

  • Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: Limited Edition Blu-ray Gift Set

  • WALL•E: 2-Disc Set

  • X-Men Origins: Wolverine: Limited Edition Gift Set


  • so I don't think we can use the inclusion of that word as a determining factor.

    The determining factor, based on my understanding of the rules, is based on the answer to one simple question...is it being sold as a multi-film set or as a single release that includes bonus feature films?
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    Considering that it's not listing the Motion Comic as a bonus film, it should be a box set.
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    Considering that it's not listing the Motion Comic as a bonus film, it should be a box set.

    I don't think that should be the determining factor either as there is no industry standard that I am aware of.
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    Considering that it's not listing the Motion Comic as a bonus film, it should be a box set.

    I don't think that should be the determining factor either as there is no industry standard that I am aware of.


    True, but you yourself said this:

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    The determining factor, based on my understanding of the rules, is based on the answer to one simple question...is it being sold as a multi-film set or as a single release that includes bonus feature films?


    There isn't a mention of these being bonus feature films. It doesn't say they are bonus films, so it shouldn't be assumed they are.
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    Oy vay.
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    True, but you yourself said this:

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    The determining factor, based on my understanding of the rules, is based on the answer to one simple question...is it being sold as a multi-film set or as a single release that includes bonus feature films?


    There isn't a mention of these being bonus feature films. It doesn't say they are bonus films, so it shouldn't be assumed they are.

    The rules define a Bonus Feature Film as "any feature film that is included as part of the bonus material for a single release."  My simple question is based on that definition which, if you will notice, doesn't say it has to be labeled as a bonus film.  It doesn't say that because the release that caused this rule to be created, Ben-Hur: Four-Disc Collector's Edition, doesn't have the 1925 version listed as a bonus film.  It simply states that The 1925 Silent Version is on Disc 3.  I am not asking you to agree, just offering my opinion.

    That being said, now that I have had a chance to think about it, there is another question that has to be answered...is the Watchmen Motion Comic a feature film?  Based on the examples given in the rules, my answer would be 'no'. 
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    Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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    What about it makes the Watchmen ultimate cut the main featured film rather than part of a collection of all things Watchmen? There are as many special features about the graphic novel as the movie and they are given roughly equal billing on the cover.


    Cuz it's the main reason anyone would get this. It's not like the graphic novel has been out of print for years and only available here, but the UE has been out of print and now available. It's the only reason I'd consider getting this set, and judging from threads about this set on blu-ray com, the main reason for almost everyone. Plus it's the longest cut of the main feature, those always get top billing.
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    This is a live issue again on the actual profile. I submitted it as not a box set with the ultimate cut of the movie on the parent and the motion comic and theatrical version as children. I didn't think this was correct, but that's how this thread went. Now, someone has added it and the votes seem to be supporting my view. Has the consensus changed?
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