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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
The rules don't require it to be listed as a bonus feature, only that it be a bonus feature film. This is not being sold as "The Watchmen and The Watchmen Graphic Novel." It is simply, "Watchmen: The Ultimate Cut." That's true of what Alien posted, but not the edition I'm talking about. See here. The Ultimate Cut isn't even mentioned on the front. | | | Last edited: by Ace_of_Sevens |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Doesn't change anything ace. It can be dealt with through the bonus feature film. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | What about it makes the Watchmen ultimate cut the main featured film rather than part of a collection of all things Watchmen? There are as many special features about the graphic novel as the movie and they are given roughly equal billing on the cover. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Oh good grief. Want to argue sys trek iv being a comedy. I think that's probably a personal call, ace. Is it not called ultimate edition, or something similar, to me that would put the extended cut first, but that's me. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Of course it helps that disc one is the ultimate cut. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | "One Complete Set" "4-Disc Collector's Set" Something tells me this is a set. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote: Is it not called ultimate edition, or something similar, to me that would put the extended cut first, but that's me. It isn't. It's called the collector's edition. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | That's good enough, ace. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote: "One Complete Set" "4-Disc Collector's Set"
Something tells me this is a set. I have a few releases that use the word 'Set' and, while some are actual multi-movie sets... Alien Anthology: Limited Edition Collector's SetDeath Race: Unrated 2-Movie Box SetThe Lion King Trilogy: Collector's SetMen in Black Trilogy: Limited Edition Giftsetmost are not... Angels & Demons: Two-Disc Theatrical & Extended Limited Edition Gift SetThe Amazing Spider-Man: Limited Edition Blu-ray Gift SetBatman Begins: Limited Edition Gift SetThe Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian: 2-Disc SetHellboy II: The Golden Army: Collector's SetThe Smurfs: 3-Disc Holiday Gift SetStar Trek: Limited Edition Blu-ray Gift SetTerminator 2: Judgment Day: Limited Edition Complete Collector's SetTransformers: Revenge of the Fallen: Limited Edition Blu-ray Gift SetWALL•E: 2-Disc SetX-Men Origins: Wolverine: Limited Edition Gift Setso I don't think we can use the inclusion of that word as a determining factor. The determining factor, based on my understanding of the rules, is based on the answer to one simple question...is it being sold as a multi-film set or as a single release that includes bonus feature films? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Considering that it's not listing the Motion Comic as a bonus film, it should be a box set. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote: Considering that it's not listing the Motion Comic as a bonus film, it should be a box set. I don't think that should be the determining factor either as there is no industry standard that I am aware of. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote: Considering that it's not listing the Motion Comic as a bonus film, it should be a box set. I don't think that should be the determining factor either as there is no industry standard that I am aware of. True, but you yourself said this: Quote: The determining factor, based on my understanding of the rules, is based on the answer to one simple question...is it being sold as a multi-film set or as a single release that includes bonus feature films? There isn't a mention of these being bonus feature films. It doesn't say they are bonus films, so it shouldn't be assumed they are. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Oy vay. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote: True, but you yourself said this:
Quote: The determining factor, based on my understanding of the rules, is based on the answer to one simple question...is it being sold as a multi-film set or as a single release that includes bonus feature films?
There isn't a mention of these being bonus feature films. It doesn't say they are bonus films, so it shouldn't be assumed they are. The rules define a Bonus Feature Film as "any feature film that is included as part of the bonus material for a single release." My simple question is based on that definition which, if you will notice, doesn't say it has to be labeled as a bonus film. It doesn't say that because the release that caused this rule to be created, Ben-Hur: Four-Disc Collector's Edition, doesn't have the 1925 version listed as a bonus film. It simply states that The 1925 Silent Version is on Disc 3. I am not asking you to agree, just offering my opinion. That being said, now that I have had a chance to think about it, there is another question that has to be answered...is the Watchmen Motion Comic a feature film? Based on the examples given in the rules, my answer would be 'no'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: What about it makes the Watchmen ultimate cut the main featured film rather than part of a collection of all things Watchmen? There are as many special features about the graphic novel as the movie and they are given roughly equal billing on the cover. Cuz it's the main reason anyone would get this. It's not like the graphic novel has been out of print for years and only available here, but the UE has been out of print and now available. It's the only reason I'd consider getting this set, and judging from threads about this set on blu-ray com, the main reason for almost everyone. Plus it's the longest cut of the main feature, those always get top billing. | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | This is a live issue again on the actual profile. I submitted it as not a box set with the ultimate cut of the movie on the parent and the motion comic and theatrical version as children. I didn't think this was correct, but that's how this thread went. Now, someone has added it and the votes seem to be supporting my view. Has the consensus changed? |
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