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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
Registered: March 14, 2007
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I too have been caught in this mess.  Locally, the few I have are all:

Title: Fill in the blank Collection
Edition: 4 Film Favorites

The couple that I've added to the online from scratch have since been reversed with the same logic that we must match the awful choice initially made to make the online consistent.

To me, it couldn't be more obvious that this is a line of releases that collectively fall under the 4 Films line, but have next to nothing to do with each other.  To me, this set of circumstances screams out "Edition", much like The Criterion Collection or even Fox Studio Classics.  Of course the reason we are at this juncture is simply because of folks "taking the title directly from the cover" without applying even the smallest amount of critical thinking.
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Quoting hal9g:
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Is "Favorite Films" part of the Title or is it an Edition?

Here's what the covers looks like.

4 Film Favorites: Blade Collection


Region 1

Released: 9/29/2009

Anamorphic






Holy crap where did you learn how to use all those forum tags like that.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGrendell
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Agreed... but it seems everyone that owns the titles seems to fight it with all they are worth. with my owning only the one title... and so many in the database like that Not sure I can fight it without something strong to back me up.


Did they respond to PM? What is their reasoning?

They sound like malicious users to me who should probably be banned from contributing. But since it seems Invelos staff has abandoned the users I guess we are on our own.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAce_of_Sevens
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I could live with Title: 4 Film Favorites: Blade Collection or Title: Blade Collection, Edition: 4 Films Favorites, with a preference to the latter as another Blade collection which was not part of 4 Film Favorites would probably have more-or-less the same contents.
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Holy crap where did you learn how to use all those forum tags like that.


I believe that is the work of the Tradings Poster plugin.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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Quoting Grendell:
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Holy crap where did you learn how to use all those forum tags like that.


I believe that is the work of the Tradings Poster plugin.


That would be correct! 

But I forgot to click on "Make this a Poll" before hitting 'enter'. 
Hal
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The thing is... it isn't always an edition just because the word Collection is there. And I believe in this case the title is The Critters Collection.

As I said, I understand where you are coming from, but I can also see where the other side is coming from.  I mean, 'The Critters Collection' sure sounds like a collection of films featuring critters. 
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The last time this came up, earlier this year, the consensus of the few that replied was all in the title field, no edition.
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looks like a lot are like this 4 Film Favorites:whatever collection



4 Film Favorites: Sylvester Stallone Collection


Region 1

Released: 11/6/2007

2.4::1




4 Film Favorites: Steven Seagal Collection


All Regions

Released: 11/6/2007

Anamorphic 1.85:1




4 Film Favorites: John Wayne


Region 1

Released: 11/6/2007

Full Frame




4 Film Favorites: King of Horror


Region 1

Released: 11/6/2007

[/DIVLEFT]

[DIVLEFT MARGIN="10px"]


4 Film Favorites: Thriller


Region 1

Released: 11/6/2007

[/DIVLEFT]

[DIVLEFT MARGIN="10px"]


4 Film Favorites: Horror


Region 1

Released: 11/6/2007

[/DIVLEFT]

[DIVLEFT MARGIN="10px"]


4 Film Favorites: Lethal Weapon


Region 1

Released: 11/6/2007

[/DIVLEFT]

[DIVLEFT MARGIN="10px"]


4 Film Favorites: Family Comedies


All Regions

Released: 11/6/2007

1.33:1




4 Film Favorites: Martial Arts


Region 1

Released: 11/6/2006

Widescreen 2.35:1




4 Film Favorites: A Nightmare on Elm Street 5 - 8


Region 1

Released: 11/4/2008

[/DIVLEFT]

[DIVLEFT MARGIN="10px"]


4 Film Favorites: Ice Cube Collection


Region 1

Released: 10/14/2008

Widescreen




4 Film Favorites: A Nightmare on Elm Street 1-4


Region 1

Released: 10/14/2008

[/DIVLEFT]

[DIVLEFT MARGIN="10px"]


4 Film Favorites: International Spies Collection


Region 1

Released: 9/29/2009

Anamorphic 2.40:1




4 Film Favorites: Final Destination Collection


Region 1

Released: 9/7/2010

Anamorphic




4 Film Favorites: Superman


Region 1

Released: 10/14/2008

Widescreen




4 Film Favorites: Hugh Grant Collection


Region 1

Released: 11/4/2008

Anamorphic 1.85:1




4 Film Favorites: The Matrix Collection


Region 1

Released: 10/14/2008

Widescreen




4 Film Favorites: Batman Collection


Region 1

Released: 9/29/2009

Anamorphic 1.85:1




4 Film Favorites: Ocean's Collection


Region 1

Released: 9/29/2009

Anamorphic 2.40:1




4 Film Favorites: Police Academy 1-4 Collection


Region 1

Released: 9/29/2009

[/DIVLEFT]

[DIVLEFT MARGIN="10px"]


4 Film Favorites: Urban Action Collection


Region 1

Released: 1/12/2010

[/DIVLEFT]

[DIVLEFT MARGIN="10px"]





These are a few. 

Disagree;
Title: 4 Films Collection
Edition: Whatever collection

Agree
Title: 4 Films Collection:Whatever Collection

Could live with (but prefer option above)
Title:Whatever Collection
Edition:4 Films Collection
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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Seems obvious to me that Whatever Collection is the part that actually describes the content of the DVD, so it should go into the title field. That's the important part for me.

I don't much care where you put 4 Film Favorites. Personally I put it in the edition field for my local, since I don't want them all sorted under "4". I realize that the same thing could be accomplished by using the sort field, but then they would look like they weren't sorted right if the title started with "4". But that's just a local problem...
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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The last time this came up, earlier this year, the consensus of the few that replied was all in the title field, no edition.


In that topic I proposed the title of each film in the title field and the "4 Films Favorites: Whatever Collection" part in the edition field, assuming that all the films were on one disc. That isn't the case so I'm in for:

Title: Whatever Collection
Edition: 4 Film Favorites

This for just one simple reason, the 'Whatever Collection' part is referring to the actual content of the set and '4 Film Favorites' part is the name of a complete collection of film collections. As a consensus  I could live with:

Title: 4 Film Favorites: Whatever Collection
Edition: -

Wrong:

Title: 4 Film Favorites
Edition: Whatever Collection
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
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I can't really get it from those tiny covers. Is the word collection actually printed on the cover for example in the case of "Lethal Weapon Collection" or "The Matrix Collection"?

If not, I'd vote for "4 Film Favorites: The Matrix" as title and an empty edition.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
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Another argument for putting everything in the title field is that you can't search for editions with title search (I think).
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAce_of_Sevens
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Another argument for putting everything in the title field is that you can't search for editions with title search (I think).


You actually can.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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I have six of these sets.  I have them all set up as such (using one as example):

Title:  4 Film Favorites: Classic Horse Films
Edition: 

If we're going to change that, I wouldn't mind the option of:

Title:  Classic Horse Films
Edition:  4 Film Favorites

But anything else seems ludicrous.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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I can't really get it from those tiny covers. Is the word collection actually printed on the cover for example in the case of "Lethal Weapon Collection" or "The Matrix Collection"?

If not, I'd vote for "4 Film Favorites: The Matrix" as title and an empty edition.


And yes, in the case of the Matrix set, it is "4 Film Favorites:  The Matrix Collection"
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