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Common name for William/Wm/Wm. (Ladd) Skinner - Art Director/Production Designer |
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| Registered: September 29, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Also credited sometimes as William or Bill Skinner IMDBI already had William Ladd Skinner as the common name, but then a contribution came up changing the common name to William Skinner. So I have to be sure. William Skinner: 3 confirmed Alien Hunter (actor credit)CobraOver The TopWilliam Ladd Skinner: 11 confirmedBattleshipBrain DonorsK19: The WidowmakerLeviathanMr. BrooksPearl HarborPirates of the Caribbean: At World's EndPirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's ChestPublic Enemies (2009)Transformers: Age of ExtinctionTRON: LegacyWm Ladd Skinner: 11 confirmed12 MonkeysAlien Hunter (Production Designer)The BodyguardDances With WolvesIdiocracyLittle GiantsMeet The SpartansOn Deadly GroundThe PeacemakerPontiac MoonU-571Wm. Ladd Skinner: 4 confirmed GodzillaLock Up OscarThis Is The EndBill Skinner: 4 confirmed EraserI Am LegendLas Vegas: Season OneSpeed 2: Cruise Control | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! |
| | Registered: October 30, 2011 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | It looks like the new common name is "William Ladd Skinner". Because of the tie profile counts are the tie breaker
William Ladd Skinner - 497
Wm Ladd Skinner - 313 |
| | Registered: February 8, 2011 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,220 |
| | Posted: | | | | Transformers: Age of Extinction --> William Ladd Skinner  |
| | Registered: May 16, 2010 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 516 |
| | Posted: | | | | Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner is really the same, this point does not change much. So it is 15 to 11 for Wm. Ladd Skinner as he is in the database now. Changing forward and backward messes up the database. I see this with over 6'000 films. In 1 or 2 films somebody changes it, in the rest not. I have him 20 times in my database with Wm. Ladd Skinner, one will change one film, the rest is never touched again and keeps to be wrong. I have not the time to change those and will also not do it. Perhaps people not having a job have the time for such games. Than the next film comes and somebody will again change it back, for what? Do you have nothing better to do?
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| | Posted: | | | | Gimme Shelter (2013)  | | | | Si on n'a pas ce qu'on aime, on doit aimer, ce qu'on a ! |
| | Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote:
Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner is really the same, this point does not change much. So it is 15 to 11 for Wm. Ladd Skinner as he is in the database now. Changing forward and backward messes up the database. I see this with over 6'000 films. In 1 or 2 films somebody changes it, in the rest not. I have him 20 times in my database with Wm. Ladd Skinner, one will change one film, the rest is never touched again and keeps to be wrong. I have not the time to change those and will also not do it. Perhaps people not having a job have the time for such games. Than the next film comes and somebody will again change it back, for what? Do you have nothing better to do?
Fritz Common names change, that is just the nature of them But I am not sure we can consider Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner as the same. Personally I think the only time we can make that assumption is when the filter actually manipulates it to the same name and in this case it does not. The filter making two variants the same common name shows a clear intent by Invelos. |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Scooter1836: Quote:
Quoting SwissFilm:
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Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner is really the same, this point does not change much. So it is 15 to 11 for Wm. Ladd Skinner as he is in the database now. Changing forward and backward messes up the database. I see this with over 6'000 films. In 1 or 2 films somebody changes it, in the rest not. I have him 20 times in my database with Wm. Ladd Skinner, one will change one film, the rest is never touched again and keeps to be wrong. I have not the time to change those and will also not do it. Perhaps people not having a job have the time for such games. Than the next film comes and somebody will again change it back, for what? Do you have nothing better to do?
Fritz
Common names change, that is just the nature of them
But I am not sure we can consider Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner as the same. Personally I think the only time we can make that assumption is when the filter actually manipulates it to the same name and in this case it does not. The filter making two variants the same common name shows a clear intent by Invelos. you still calling a standardized name a common name. 2 different things. |
| | Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Also credited sometimes as William or Bill Skinner IMDBI already had William Ladd Skinner as the common name, but then a contribution came up changing the common name to William Skinner. So I have to be sure. William Skinner: 3 confirmed Alien Hunter (actor credit)CobraOver The TopWilliam Ladd Skinner: 11 confirmedBattleshipBrain DonorsK19: The WidowmakerLeviathanMr. BrooksPearl HarborPirates of the Caribbean: At World's EndPirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's ChestPublic Enemies (2009)Transformers: Age of ExtinctionTRON: LegacyWm Ladd Skinner: 12 confirmed12 MonkeysAlien Hunter (Production Designer)The BodyguardDances With WolvesGimme Shelter (Production Designer)IdiocracyLittle GiantsMeet The SpartansOn Deadly GroundThe PeacemakerPontiac MoonU-571Wm. Ladd Skinner: 4 confirmed GodzillaLock Up OscarThis Is The EndBill Skinner: 4 confirmed EraserI Am LegendLas Vegas: Season OneSpeed 2: Cruise Control | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! | | | | Last edited: by huskersports |
| | Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote:
Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner is really the same, this point does not change much. So it is 15 to 11 for Wm. Ladd Skinner as he is in the database now. Changing forward and backward messes up the database. I see this with over 6'000 films. In 1 or 2 films somebody changes it, in the rest not. I have him 20 times in my database with Wm. Ladd Skinner, one will change one film, the rest is never touched again and keeps to be wrong. I have not the time to change those and will also not do it. Perhaps people not having a job have the time for such games. Than the next film comes and somebody will again change it back, for what? Do you have nothing better to do?
Fritz Wm. has a period at the end of the first name and Wm doesn't have a period at the end of the first name. So, they are different. | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! |
| | Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Quoting Scooter1836:
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Quoting SwissFilm:
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Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner is really the same, this point does not change much. So it is 15 to 11 for Wm. Ladd Skinner as he is in the database now. Changing forward and backward messes up the database. I see this with over 6'000 films. In 1 or 2 films somebody changes it, in the rest not. I have him 20 times in my database with Wm. Ladd Skinner, one will change one film, the rest is never touched again and keeps to be wrong. I have not the time to change those and will also not do it. Perhaps people not having a job have the time for such games. Than the next film comes and somebody will again change it back, for what? Do you have nothing better to do?
Fritz
Common names change, that is just the nature of them
But I am not sure we can consider Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner as the same. Personally I think the only time we can make that assumption is when the filter actually manipulates it to the same name and in this case it does not. The filter making two variants the same common name shows a clear intent by Invelos.
you still calling a standardized name a common name. 2 different things. There is no standardized names, calling it something new and different does not make it different. The common name is what is placed in the main name fields of the cast and crew. Many times being the same as the name credited. |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Scooter1836: Quote:
Quoting ateo357:
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Quoting Scooter1836:
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Quoting SwissFilm:
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Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner is really the same, this point does not change much. So it is 15 to 11 for Wm. Ladd Skinner as he is in the database now. Changing forward and backward messes up the database. I see this with over 6'000 films. In 1 or 2 films somebody changes it, in the rest not. I have him 20 times in my database with Wm. Ladd Skinner, one will change one film, the rest is never touched again and keeps to be wrong. I have not the time to change those and will also not do it. Perhaps people not having a job have the time for such games. Than the next film comes and somebody will again change it back, for what? Do you have nothing better to do?
Fritz
Common names change, that is just the nature of them
But I am not sure we can consider Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner as the same. Personally I think the only time we can make that assumption is when the filter actually manipulates it to the same name and in this case it does not. The filter making two variants the same common name shows a clear intent by Invelos.
you still calling a standardized name a common name. 2 different things.
There is no standardized names, calling it something new and different does not make it different. The common name is what is placed in the main name fields of the cast and crew. Many times being the same as the name credited. As per the contribution rules - Certain name standardizations are performed during contribution. e.g. John Smith Jr becomes John Smith, Jr. As you can read I didn't make up a new and different term. You have decided to changed standardization to mean common name. In the common name field you may have common name, credited name or standardized name, all 3 have different meanings. |
| | Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Quoting Scooter1836:
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Quoting ateo357:
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Quoting Scooter1836:
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Quoting SwissFilm:
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Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner is really the same, this point does not change much. So it is 15 to 11 for Wm. Ladd Skinner as he is in the database now. Changing forward and backward messes up the database. I see this with over 6'000 films. In 1 or 2 films somebody changes it, in the rest not. I have him 20 times in my database with Wm. Ladd Skinner, one will change one film, the rest is never touched again and keeps to be wrong. I have not the time to change those and will also not do it. Perhaps people not having a job have the time for such games. Than the next film comes and somebody will again change it back, for what? Do you have nothing better to do?
Fritz
Common names change, that is just the nature of them
But I am not sure we can consider Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner as the same. Personally I think the only time we can make that assumption is when the filter actually manipulates it to the same name and in this case it does not. The filter making two variants the same common name shows a clear intent by Invelos.
you still calling a standardized name a common name. 2 different things.
There is no standardized names, calling it something new and different does not make it different. The common name is what is placed in the main name fields of the cast and crew. Many times being the same as the name credited.
As per the contribution rules - Certain name standardizations are performed during contribution. e.g. John Smith Jr becomes John Smith, Jr.
As you can read I didn't make up a new and different term. You have decided to changed standardization to mean common name.
In the common name field you may have common name, credited name or standardized name, all 3 have different meanings. However if you look at my initial response I did not agree with considering Wm and Wm. the same just as you do so arguing that point in this thread is off topic for this thread. There are other threads where it is on topic. People monitoring those threads where is is on topic may not be monitoring this thread. Add to that this thread does not need to be clogged up with issues that do not affect the common name for Mr. Skinner. | | | | Last edited: by Scooter1836 |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote:
Wm Ladd Skinner and Wm. Ladd Skinner is really the same, this point does not change much. So it is 15 to 11 for Wm. Ladd Skinner as he is in the database now. Changing forward and backward messes up the database. I see this with over 6'000 films. In 1 or 2 films somebody changes it, in the rest not. I have him 20 times in my database with Wm. Ladd Skinner, one will change one film, the rest is never touched again and keeps to be wrong. I have not the time to change those and will also not do it. Perhaps people not having a job have the time for such games. Than the next film comes and somebody will again change it back, for what? Do you have nothing better to do?
Fritz Wm. and Wm are 2 different credits, so should be treated as such. I see you would like to add them together the same as the group who wants to add standardized names because of the auto filter. The problem is the hypocrisy of the autofilter that will filter certain variants but ignores the same situation with (III & ,III) (Wm. & Wm) (PJ & P.J.). |
| | Registered: February 8, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,220 |
| | Posted: | | | | Pontiac Moon --> Wm Ladd Skinner  I think this was the last movie with a valid credit for now. I've checked CLT for all name variants and all movies have been named allready, are invalid or credits for the sound guy. |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Scorpion: Season 1: Pilot - Art Director Bill Skinner | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
. The Finest Hours: William Ladd Skinner (Supervising Art Director) Verified by IMDb. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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