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May I add a second question:

How about magazines that have a movie DVD as bonus?
Example (TV Magazine with the German movie "Lammbock")

Also over the EAN/UPC of the magazine? 

As far as I know, individual magazine issues usually don't have an individual EAN/UPC but the EAN is valid for all the issues of a magazine. Therefore I don't think that the EAN of a magazine should be used for a bonus DVD featured with a single issue.

Individual issues may have a different code like the SICI
on top of a ISSN though. But those codes can't be entered into profiler.

On the other hand, if the EAN is unique to the issue, I see no reason not to use it.

Quoting VirusPil:

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I always went at magazine DVDs/BRs with disc id. The Reason for me is that I collect the DVDs without magazine

That makes sense, yeah. In the CD-with-Bonus DVD scenario, though, I do collect them together - if nothing else, simply because of the fact that they're usually both in the same jewelcase/digipack. So if I'm holding some kind of case in my hand with the disc(s) in it, and there's a EAN/UPC on that, then I'll use it. Not to mention I would generally scan that packaging's artwork as well, and it seems strange not to use an EAN/UPC that I'm actually including as part of the contribution by way of the cover scan.

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Quoting RHo:

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I would always go by UPC because the UPC is given for the whole package no matter if the CD or DVD is the bonus disc.

The only problem there is that the rules need to be updated one way or another.

We're not profiling CD's here and the CD information should never be entered into the database. A "Bonus" is a "Bonus" and we can't enter a UPC twice for a DVD release that includes a bonus disc.

No, the UPC is not for the CD. It is for the whole package, which includes the DVD. Therefore the UPC is valid for the DVD as well.

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The screeners would seem to beg to differ. I've had "Bonus Music DVD" profiles declined before for that very reason.

Well, I've got about 25 to 30 of them approved with no problems at all. And judging from these poll results, this is what most users have been doing.

Quoting Katatonia:

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Many record labels will issue a CD/DVD and label the DVD as a "Bonus" for a limited time. They will then reissue the CD with the same exact UPC, but remove the Bonus/limited designators on the package.

Indeed - the same thing even happens with DVD's sometimes. But that doesn't change anything, does it?

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Indeed - the same thing even happens with DVD's sometimes. But that doesn't change anything, does it?

Except for the fact that this is not CD Profiler? No.

And therefore there is no UPC conflict for the package with and without DVD for profiler purposes.

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And therefore there is no UPC conflict for the package with and without DVD for profiler purposes.

Let me make my previous statement clearer...

These are not marketed as DVD releases. They are marketed as CD releases. You don't go to DVD Empire to look for a Bonus DVD to a CD Release. That was my point.

It appears that the screeners accept with either UPC or Disc ID, and until the rules are clearer that's the way it is. I've had at least one Music "Bonus DVD" declined before for the very reason of entering the UPC. If it says "Bonus DVD" on the package, I will continue to enter it via Disc ID. If it doesn't, I'll use the UPC. That's worked for me for years on dozens and dozens of Music DVD submissions, and the screeners never once had a problem with a Disc ID addition.

That's my statement, and I'm done with this thread. Enter them however you wish, as it seems to be personal preference at this point until the rules are more clearly worded on the matter.

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Quoting paulb_99:

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If there is a UPC i see no reason not to use it,

Paul

I agree with everyone who has said this. The DVD, bonus or not, is still sold under the UPC that appears on the package. Why would we not use it? This is how I've entered all the ones I have up until this point (which is admittedly few as I don't own many of these).

Agreed.