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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
If it's an add promoting Toy Story 1 & 2 on DVD / Blu-ray, I would say that's not a trailer in the proper sense. It's a promotional add. Thus neither should be check. It's not a trailer. I don't disagree except that all the trailers (and there are a number of bonus trailers) are menu selectable, including the TS 1&2. So Bonus gets checked regardless. But i'm moving more strongly to the no Feature trailer camp. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't see anything in the latest rules about them being menu selectable or not. I fail to see what that has to do with anything.
I still say they're not trailers and I wouldn't mark them as such. But I don't have the disc, so that's just my opinion based on what I've read. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
I don't see anything in the latest rules about them being menu selectable or not. I fail to see what that has to do with anything. I was merely observing that someone would/could say: "well the disc includes them as trailers, so they must be trailers" | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
If it's an add promoting Toy Story 1 & 2 on DVD / Blu-ray, I would say that's not a trailer in the proper sense. It's a promotional add. Thus neither should be check. It's not a trailer.
Had it been a trailer for Toy Story followed by a separate trailer for Toy Story 2, then I'd say Feature Trailer and Bonus Trailer respectively. Aren't all non-feature trailers promotional ads?  | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting Mark Harrison:
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If it's an add promoting Toy Story 1 & 2 on DVD / Blu-ray, I would say that's not a trailer in the proper sense. It's a promotional add. Thus neither should be check. It's not a trailer.
Had it been a trailer for Toy Story followed by a separate trailer for Toy Story 2, then I'd say Feature Trailer and Bonus Trailer respectively.
Aren't all non-feature trailers promotional ads? Yes. But are all promotional ads trailers? Personally I find a huge difference between a true trailer and a short ad telling me when something will be available on DVD & Blu-ray. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Since the rules says Trailers and TV Spots I would include the short add of when a DVD & Blu-Ray is coming out... that sounds like it fits into TV Spots as well. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | agree with Addicted2DVD | | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | I interpret that different. I think of a trailer as something you see in a theater. Typically several minutes long with the MPAA warning at the front (in the US anyway). For TV spot, I think of a 15-30 second mini trailer shown on TV. I even have discs (Alien comes to mind) that list the trailers separately as theatrical trailers and TV spots. They're advertising the movie. What we're talking about here in the case of the Toy Story ads are advertising the DVD / Blu-ray release. I don't think of those as "trailers". But that's just me. I have no idea what Ken had in mind. And to be honest, it's really not all that important to me. But it would sure be nice if Ken could clarify!  | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have seen those types of TV Spots as well. But that don't mean the DVD/Blu Ray ones aren't TV Spots as well. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
If it's an add promoting Toy Story 1 & 2 on DVD / Blu-ray, I would say that's not a trailer in the proper sense. It's a promotional add. Thus neither should be check. It's not a trailer.
Had it been a trailer for Toy Story followed by a separate trailer for Toy Story 2, then I'd say Feature Trailer and Bonus Trailer respectively. I agree. Not trailer, rubbish. Not a feature. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I have seen those types of TV Spots as well. But that don't mean the DVD/Blu Ray ones aren't TV Spots as well. Perhaps. But I'd put them in the same category as ads for video games, clubs, Disney vacations, etc. related to the main feature. It's just marketing rubbish. Like I said, I'm not trying to stir anything up here. Just present an opposing view. I'm more than happy to go with the majority opinion or hopefully an official opinion! Hopefully Ken will eventually step in to clarify. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 670 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
Toy Story on Blu-ray includes a single Trailer promoting Toy Story 1 (this disc) and Toy Story 2 on Blu-ray.
Feature or Bonus Trailer. I'd say none. The rules says Quote:
Bonus Trailers Theatrical Trailers or TV spots for the other films/shows. Do not include studio trailer montages. I know it's under Bonus Trailers, but I would assume this goes for Feature Trailers as well when they are part of a montage, and even though what you're describing is only two trailers in one, I would still call it a montage... | | | | The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. (William Gibson) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is something different... that is for studio montages.... like when they show just a quick clip of several movies and at the end of it they say something like FOX DVD. Not for multiple full trailers or TV Spots. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | OK... Here is one I am not 100% sure how to handle. I am about 95% sure how to handle it... but want to see if you all agree.
The Nightmare on Elm Street Collection:
None of the movie discs contains trailers... but there is a bonus disc for all movies... The Nightmare Series Encyclopedia... This disc has the Theatrical trailers for all the movies in the set (and no other trailers).
So how would you handle it?
My thoughts is to leave it at just the Feature Trailers since the disc is an extras disc for all the movies in the set. Does this sound right to everyone? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
My thoughts is to leave it at just the Feature Trailers since the disc is an extras disc for all the movies in the set. Does this sound right to everyone? Makes sense to me. Of course, it's possible I'm just agreeing with you since you're a fellow creature of the night. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative | | | | Last edited: by Ken Cole |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | |  Thanks Ken!  But only during my monthly.... errr... I mean Unfortunately only get out once a month! | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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