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NASA releases restored footage of Apollo 11 moon landing
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Look how bored America was with the moon visits by Apollo 13 - the news agencies didn't even air the live video from the astronauts.

ETA: Assuming that bit from the movie of the same name is true.

Apollo 13 never made it to the moon, (only a slingshot trip)  and,  I don't think Americans were bored with The Apollo trips until 15 or 16 ..

It wasn't the American public, it was the TV Networks.  They had decided that traveling to the moon was such a routine occurrence, they didn't broadcast the 'life aboard ship' segment the astronauts did just prior to the accident.
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Most of what we have seen relative to Apollo 11 mission, was film of a film of of the briadcast medium. Typically we have seen third generation or owrse for the last 40 years. My understanding is that NASA has treated the original footage much as Hollywood has with their own restoration work, the result, still pretty nasty, it's never going to have the kind of clarity that one might like, but then the video equipment wasn't all that great at that time either. Conceptually this footage is not really far removed from kinescope. But no one can argue the necessity to restore and enhance the material nor it's historical significance. It does present a very interesting perspective on where we were in 1969 technologically versus today. Imean they put that craft on the moon with a 12KB computer that was HUGE, and our cell phones today have more power than that, many times more power.

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...our cell phones today have more power than that, many times more power.


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The phone devices today that you can place your Profiler DVD db on has more "power" than the
computer that collected the pre-flight, lift-off and first 15 minutes of flight data, the data that you seen all the scope dopes looking at, than some of these phones.

It did have the first one usec memory, 125K of 36 bit words, later upgraded ro 256K.
Large scale computers of the day were so new to the public that in trying to explain the system to a journalist, I relented and wrote description for him.

I was part of the team that installed this computer, and took over in-charge of getting it through acceptance tests. The Operating System was modified to run in three modes, normal general purpose, a preprep, (to the get the data collection parameters set up) and mission mode. I've seen the normal operation software crash and the mission software would keep ob doing its job.

Even after I went back Phoenix, I had to go back there for some of the Apolo shots.
After Apollo 11, NASA sent me a thank you note marking the occasion to.

This experience was very helpful when I did the similar thing for USAF SAC war games computer.

When we went down there in May, 1965, we though we get to see something unique video on the big screen the big shoors looked at, no it was NBC's feed.
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The phone devices today that you can place your Profiler DVD db on has more "power" than the
computer that collected the pre-flight, lift-off and first 15 minutes of flight data, the data that you seen all the scope dopes looking at, than some of these phones.

It did have the first one usec memory, 125K of 36 bit words, later upgraded ro 256K.
Large scale computers of the day were so new to the public that in trying to explain the system to a journalist, I relented and wrote description for him.

I was part of the team that installed this computer, and took over in-charge of getting it through acceptance tests. The Operating System was modified to run in three modes, normal general purpose, a preprep, (to the get the data collection parameters set up) and mission mode. I've seen the normal operation software crash and the mission software would keep ob doing its job.

Even after I went back Phoenix, I had to go back there for some of the Apolo shots.
After Apollo 11, NASA sent me a thank you note marking the occasion to.

This experience was very helpful when I did the similar thing for USAF SAC war games computer.

When we went down there in May, 1965, we though we get to see something unique video on the big screen the big shoors looked at, no it was NBC's feed.

You are WOPR's father?

Would you like to play...a game?

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Also in 1964, I was at Alabama Research Institute, Huntsville, AL, an extension of Alabama University.
They were studying effects of heat on the missiles skin, Saturn, etc there. The Saturn was in test there.
The first time I heard a Saturn test,  I ran outside, I thought a violent storm happening.

Late one night, in summer 1964, we were installing more memory in the system (UNIVAC 1107), and I noticed a little old man who looked like he just stepped out of b sci-fi movie lab coat and glasses down on his nose and all. He was one Dr. Wernher von Braun's boys.

We introduced ourselves, I showed him the maintenance panel which was pretty impressive on the U1107. We took a break and offered him a cup of coffee. While we drinking our coffee we started discussing what as going on in the building. He went to the backboard and draw a schema of how the moon shoot was going to work, slang shot and all. He said no one would believe him.
But it all went just as he had laid it all out.
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You know it's a conspiracy, the 'moon'-landing was filmed somewhere in Arizona.




A new nail in the good 'ol conspiracy coffin:
http://www.space.com/news/090717-lro-apollo11-images.html
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Myth Busters did a show on these conspiracy theories and deemed it "Plausible".
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For those who understand German:
here's a nice rebuttal of those conspiracy theories.
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On the other hand, there are some compelling arguments in this article:

The Truth About Apollo 11
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Not really... Everyone knows that the moon is made of cheese.
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On the other hand, there are some compelling arguments in this article:

The Truth About Apollo 11


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Definitely better than the B/W RCA set this 14 tyear old back then was watching on that hot and humid July day. Actually, I forget if it was day or night EST that is.
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Since today is the 20th of July, this post should get at least another page or two out this.. Good memories and a nice story line link to that day ..
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Definitely better than the B/W RCA set this 14 tyear old back then was watching on that hot and humid July day. Actually, I forget if it was day or night EST that is.


The Eagle has Landed, was around 2pm est,, but Neil Armstrong didn't leave the LEM for at least 2 plus hours ...
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Definitely better than the B/W RCA set this 14 tyear old back then was watching on that hot and humid July day. Actually, I forget if it was day or night EST that is.


The Eagle has Landed, was around 2pm est,, but Neil Armstrong didn't leave the LEM for at least 2 plus hours ...

Sorry, but that is incorrect.  The Lunar Module landed on the surface of the moon at 4:17 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time.  Some six hours later, at 10:39 p.m., Armstrong opened the hatch and began his decent towards the lunar surface.  At 10:56 p.m. he took "one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

History Channel was running a 'When we left Earth: The NASA missions" marathon today. 
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