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 | W0m6at | | You're in for it now Tony |
| Registered: April 17, 2007 |  Posts: 1,091 |
| | Posted: | | | | One thing you don't seem to have considered is the issue of locality/release. I have The Matrix in my collection, but it's different from e.g. the US users, different from Blu-Ray releases. For this to have any relevance, it would need to look at things in a per title manner (like the collection profiles links thing) or by region. Some movies have a bazillion re-releases in various forms, so I think perhaps the per title would work best. Even then, multi-movie-discs will still suffer (though most would argue they're a very small percentage and tend to be less popular films).
It's an idea I like, but one that would require work from Ken for a trivial outcome. I'd rather see that time invested into something like splitting the movie information from the release information, so smaller localities can access the work and resources of the larger localities. If/when that's done, this project will probably work much better too. | | | | Adelaide Movie Buffs (info on special screenings, contests, bargains, etc. relevant to Adelaideans... and contests/bargains for other Aussies too!) |
| | Registered: August 16, 2007 | | Posts: 113 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's not that I haven't considered that, we just haven't brought that up. You do bring up a very valid point. Any ideas on a solution?
I'm thinking that it just may have to be broken down to that level of locality/medium/edition, but then the ratings would need to be fine tuned. It would solely come down to where the scale of percentages are.. and then divide it within that scale to produce the stars or rating.
I do like the idea of splitting the movie information, but of course... how much work would that take? And which solution offers a better outcome for the work and timeframe involved?
Anyway, this is good... because it's these discussions that lead to finding solutions. In the end though, it all comes down to whether or not it will be implemented in the first place. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Back in the early days of Invelos Ken said that he would be adding some features like this. But here we are almost two years later ... In some way some of this could tie into Profiler+ (or whatever it was called). I keep waiting for Ken to add something so that long time users like myself could kick a few bucks his way.  pdf | | | Paul Francis
San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
| | Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Posts: 384 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting W0m6at: Quote:
One way to get an indication of how many users have a title is to do an update on the profile.  At this point I resort to checking how many online reviews there are for a given profile (hardly accurate). Sometimes it's just nice to know how many people will benefit from your contribution *before* contributing. I like to help people. Call me strange, but it brings me a feeling of satisfaction when I know others will benefit from the hard work I put in. It takes away some of the desire if I know that there might be absolutely no one who will benifit from the work I put into a profile. And being an anime fan, sometimes this can happen...  | | | | "The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire |
| | W0m6at | | You're in for it now Tony |
| Registered: April 17, 2007 | | Posts: 1,091 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Vittra: Quote:
I like to help people. Call me strange, but it brings me a feeling of satisfaction when I know others will benefit from the hard work I put in. It takes away some of the desire if I know that there might be absolutely no one who will benifit from the work I put into a profile. And being an anime fan, sometimes this can happen... You potentially help people regardless though. I've got anime (and other) DVDs that nobody seems to have, but for some of those things they were already in the database when I signed up. Others, I'll do an update and get votes. My preference is to update what needs it. In the case of rarer titles, they're often the ones in the most dire need. | | | | Adelaide Movie Buffs (info on special screenings, contests, bargains, etc. relevant to Adelaideans... and contests/bargains for other Aussies too!) |
| | Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Posts: 384 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting W0m6at: Quote:
Quoting Vittra:
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I like to help people. Call me strange, but it brings me a feeling of satisfaction when I know others will benefit from the hard work I put in. It takes away some of the desire if I know that there might be absolutely no one who will benifit from the work I put into a profile. And being an anime fan, sometimes this can happen... You potentially help people regardless though. I've got anime (and other) DVDs that nobody seems to have, but for some of those things they were already in the database when I signed up. Others, I'll do an update and get votes.
My preference is to update what needs it. In the case of rarer titles, they're often the ones in the most dire need. Yes, I totally agree with you and I continue to contribute even if it's a brand new contribution and I *know* that I'm the only one who owns it. After all, a lot of titles in my collection were profiled excellently by other users prior to my buying of the program. I do however wish it were a feature though, to add to my enjoyment of contributing. | | | | "The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | At some point in the past, perhaps back in Intervocative days, Ken did advise the most popular titles of DVDP users.
I couldnt find a link to this post, but I have a feeling Matrix was the most popular?
Does anyone else remember that post? | | |  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting richierich: Quote:
At some point in the past, perhaps back in Intervocative days, Ken did advise the most popular titles of DVDP users.
I couldnt find a link to this post, but I have a feeling Matrix was the most popular?
Does anyone else remember that post? There was a 'stats' page that listed the profiles with the most update submissions. If Matrix for not nuber one, it was close. pdf | | | Paul Francis
San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
| | Registered: August 16, 2007 | | Posts: 113 |
| | Posted: | | | | LOL I just so happened to pick a movie out of my 800+ dvds for an example that happened to actually be correct? omg |
| | W0m6at | | You're in for it now Tony |
| Registered: April 17, 2007 | | Posts: 1,091 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm starting to see why people want to know how many people are going to benefit from an update. I did some really quick updates for a few titles (new cover scans and some really basic stuff) and got up to three votes (a lot for R4 unless you get into massively popular titles), but an update I did a pretty comprehensive audit on got no votes whatsoever! Then I've since done a comprehensive update (all cast and crew were absent) for a US R1 profile (URDA: The Third Reich), and no votes on that one yet either.
At the end of the day I'm mostly doing them for my local database, but it's still a shame to see hard work unrecognised. What's worse is that for cast & crew updates there's a lot of work involved, and that work generally only helps on that particular profile. | | | | Adelaide Movie Buffs (info on special screenings, contests, bargains, etc. relevant to Adelaideans... and contests/bargains for other Aussies too!) |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Yeah, I see no problem with displaying anonymous statistics about people's online collections as long as they can opt out if they wish. Or opt in, just to be on the safe side  | | | | -- Enry |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting White Pongo, Jr.: Quote:
Quoting northbloke:
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Yeah, I see no problem with displaying anonymous statistics about people's online collections as long as they can opt out if they wish.
Or opt in, just to be on the safe side Agreed. I hate opt out systems. They (companies in general) only do that because they know people are often too lazy to opt out of it. |
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