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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
37 titles of Chocolat have the wrong credit. It's still just one title, though. As it is, this is the ONLY time in our entire database that she's ever credited with that accent. No matter what you say, it is NOT her common name. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
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If I understand your post correctly, this actress has the following five credits in the database:
- Credited as Dominique Mac'Avoy in 'Chocolat'.
- Credited as Dominique MacAvoy in 'Sweet Revenge'.
- Credited as Dominique MacAvoy in 'Tatie Danielle'.
- Credited as Dominique Mac Avoy in 'Demetan: 1ere partie'.
- Credited as Dominique Mac Avoy in 'Fraggle Rock'.
So that's one "Dominique Mac'Avoy" credit, two "Dominique MacAvoy" credits, and two "Dominique Mac Avoy" credits. Assuming these are correct, of course - it would help if someone could confirm any of the other four credits. As it is, it's a tie between the latter two variants, but using "Dominique Mac'Avoy" as the common name is decidedly the worst pick of all.
If there is a tie in the number of titles, I would check the number of profiles. That seems to be the only readily available tiebreaker left, yes. So "Dominique MacAvoy, credited as Dominique Mac'Avoy" it is. |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,665 |
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If there is a tie in the number of titles, I would check the number of profiles.
That seems to be the only readily available tiebreaker left, yes. So "Dominique MacAvoy, credited as Dominique Mac'Avoy" it is. Assuming someone can confirm any of the non-Chocolat titles. As it stands nothing is confirmed except Chocolat. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
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If there is a tie in the number of titles, I would check the number of profiles.
That seems to be the only readily available tiebreaker left, yes. So "Dominique MacAvoy, credited as Dominique Mac'Avoy" it is.
Assuming someone can confirm any of the non-Chocolat titles. As it stands nothing is confirmed except Chocolat. Indeed - that's purely based on the CLT results. The fact that, unlike 'Chocolat', none of the other credits appears under multiple name variants, makes me hopeful, though. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Says nothing on whether to count titles or profiles, I'm afraid. |
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| Registered: July 7, 2007 | | Posts: 284 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
Says nothing on whether to count titles or profiles, I'm afraid. Common sense says it should reflect the titlecount. All versions of a film should have the same endcredits unless it's cut but then it would be abscent, not different. 43 profiles with mac'avoy for the title Chocolat only means that all 43 have been properly entered according to the credits of Chocolat and nothing more. | | | My DVD's
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| Registered: July 7, 2007 | | Posts: 284 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RaymondG: Quote:
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I don't have any of the other titles she's been credited in, so I can't check myself. If her credits in those other titles can be demonstrated to be wrong as well, as is the case in 37 Chocolat profiles, then of course I'll be happy to change my vote.
Sorry, I'm profiling Chocolat and the credits tells me that is her credit, I' don't have those other movies either. I only have the CLT to go by and for DVD Profiler purpose this is now her common name: Dominique Mac'Avoy (43 profiles)
This totally contradicts the CLT numbers from your openingpost... The notice of contradiction arises from the fact that I assumed you went with titlecount, just like most, if not all, people who responded here. I now see you use profilecount as the main decisive factor and that is not correct. | | | My DVD's
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RaymondG: Quote:
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Says nothing on whether to count titles or profiles, I'm afraid.
Common sense says it should reflect the titlecount. All versions of a film should have the same endcredits unless it's cut but then it would be abscent, not different.
43 profiles with mac'avoy for the title Chocolat only means that all 43 have been properly entered according to the credits of Chocolat and nothing more. I fully agree, Raymond. But I assume you already knew that. |
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| Registered: July 7, 2007 | | Posts: 284 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
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The notice of contradiction arises from the fact that I assumed you went with titlecount, just like most, if not all, people who responded here. I now see you use profilecount as the main decisive factor and that is not correct.
Who says so? I'm only instructed to use the CLT. that's what I do, I correct a wrong credit in that movie. It is not up to me to prove that credits from other movies are the same or wrong. All there is for that movie was a wrong credit: Dominique MacAvoy where the correct credit is Dominique Mac'Avoy. That is all what is required by me. Verifying the credit, it was wrong as where others. Checked the CLT and CLT tells me after correction of the wrong titles that that is the credit.
If those titles show their credit is something else then Dominique Mac'Avoy it is up to those to make the linking. Dominique Mac'Avoy [Dominique MacAvoy] why should suddenly the process being reversed? for that title alone are 43 profiles these outweigh those other 8 profiles.
In DVD profiler we go by a common name, trough that process it is now Dominique Mac'Avoy as we are not using real names but the movie credits.
I'm not required to buy these other movies and check these credits?
I've done what is requested: corrected the profile to the credits.
It is not to me to link other credits that are not in my possession. You say so because you keep referring to the 43 profiles listed for Mac'avoy while they ALL refer to the same movie: Chocolat. In terms of TITLE count, that variant is the worst choice of the available three. the rules dictate that you use MacAvoy or Mac Avoy as name and Mac'avoy should be entered in the 'Credited As' field. I thereby assume the rules mean to say titlecount and not profilecount as I explained above. | | | My DVD's
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| Registered: July 7, 2007 | | Posts: 284 |
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Says nothing on whether to count titles or profiles, I'm afraid.
Common sense says it should reflect the titlecount. All versions of a film should have the same endcredits unless it's cut but then it would be abscent, not different.
43 profiles with mac'avoy for the title Chocolat only means that all 43 have been properly entered according to the credits of Chocolat and nothing more.
I fully agree, Raymond. But I assume you already knew that. Yes, ofcourse Deejay  I only quoted you to elaborate on your post. | | | My DVD's
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
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| Registered: July 7, 2007 | | Posts: 284 |
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You say so because you keep referring to the 43 profiles listed for Mac'avoy while they ALL refer to the same movie: Chocolat. In terms of TITLE count, that variant is the worst choice of the available three.
the rules dictate that you use MacAvoy or Mac Avoy as name and Mac'avoy should be entered in the 'Credited As' field. I thereby assume the rules mean to say titlecount and not profilecount as I explained above.
The rules don't dictate that?
this is what the rules tell me:
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For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited. Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead.
Use the "Credited As" field where the actor's name differs from the credited name.
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However, if a user documents errors in the database where the credit is not entered properly, that can and should be considered. Better yet, correct the entries, assuming you own the discs in question, thereby correcting the lookup results See the text i made bold: that is what you keep missing here. | | | My DVD's
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