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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: Quoting jmbox:
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Quote: I believe the reference is "Individual" versus "Company" credits and has nothing at all to do with a group header. These are individual people being credited. But there is already an individual vs company clause at the top of the page, and no other category specifies "Individual" in bold.
So what? It still doesn't mean that if there's a group header you can't include legitimate credits. How do you know it doesn't mean that? Without any other guidance than "Individual Credits" we must assume that groups do not apply. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote: Quoting hal9g:
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Quote: I believe the reference is "Individual" versus "Company" credits and has nothing at all to do with a group header. These are individual people being credited. But there is already an individual vs company clause at the top of the page, and no other category specifies "Individual" in bold.
So what? It still doesn't mean that if there's a group header you can't include legitimate credits. How do you know it doesn't mean that? Without any other guidance than "Individual Credits" we must assume that groups do not apply. Do you understand the difference between an "individual" and a "group"? The credits as listed in the original post are "individual" credits listed under a "group" rolename. They are not a "group" credit like 'The Philadelphia Philharmonic' or 'The XYZ Company'. To assume that the verbiage applies to group rolenames followed by individual credits is simply illogical. Personally, I don't need any further guidance. | | | Hal |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote: How do you know it doesn't mean that? Without any other guidance than "Individual Credits" we must assume that groups do not apply. The same way we know that groups of cast, under a single group role name, are to be entered. Needless to say, I agree with hal on this...and that should tell you something about how obvious this really is as we have been disagreeing a lot lately. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Needless to say, I agree with hal on this...and that should tell you something about how obvious this really is as we have been disagreeing a lot lately. I think that was a shot......... | | | Hal |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: I think that was a shot......... No shot. You and I have been disagreeing, quite a bit lately, as to what is and isn't obvious. So, when we both agree on the same thing being obvious, that says a lot. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
| Posted: | | | | Great you both agree, but for me an individual credit is something different than a group of individuals. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote: Great you both agree, but for me an individual credit is something different than a group of individuals. You cannot be serious |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote: Great you both agree, but for me an individual credit is something different than a group of individuals. Here is the rule: List individual credits only, not company name credits. It seems fairly clear...list the credits for individuals (people), not for companies. In other words... Don't enter a credit that reads 'Special Visual Effects by ILM'. Do enter credits that read 'Special Visual Effects by George Jones'. Even if that credit takes the form of... Special Visual Effects John Smith Sam Jones Bill Sampson ...they still get entered. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote: And what's the defintion for company? Right, a group of persons. Are you serious here? It says company name credits, meaning no company names. As to your definition of 'company', I think you need to look that word up as a company can be a single person. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
OMB is for any number of different sources, not just books. I've seen it used for "Based on a Concept by...", which is perfectly legitimate. Not until the rules are changed to allow functional equivalents. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote: Quoting hal9g:
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OMB is for any number of different sources, not just books. I've seen it used for "Based on a Concept by...", which is perfectly legitimate. Not until the rules are changed to allow functional equivalents. For now, I'll accept the direction given in the program itself, when I select OMB, which includes "Book, Poem, etc." | | | Hal |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Posts: 700 |
| Posted: | | | | I am still a litle confused... Help.. If the credits says: Visual Effects By xx company (lets say, ILM) Visual effects Supervior xx name Visual Effects Director xx name Then those persons shold NOT be entered under Art / Visual Effects ? Think I am sinking in to the mud right now as I have entered all those into the Sin City profile I am working on.... | | | We are all at the same age, only at different time... |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting oleops: Quote: I am still a litle confused... Help..
If the credits says:
Visual Effects By xx company (lets say, ILM) Visual effects Supervior xx name Visual Effects Director xx name
Then those persons shold NOT be entered under Art / Visual Effects ?
Think I am sinking in to the mud right now as I have entered all those into the Sin City profile I am working on.... Why wouldn't they get credit? They are individuals...not a Company. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,665 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting oleops: Quote: If the credits says:
Visual Effects By xx company (lets say, ILM) Visual effects Supervior xx name Visual Effects Director xx name
Then those persons shold NOT be entered under Art / Visual Effects ? ILM as an entity would not get a credit. The Supervisor & Director can be credited. | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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