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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,494 |
| | Posted: | | | | One area I have a concern with,, ( I don't have the exact title(s) in front of me but there are quite a few),, is Canadian region with the exact same upc of a title may have a G rating yet the same title for USA would be PG .,, dfferant countries allow for differant rules for ages . I have always in the past gone with the USA rating as I would just get negative votes from others saying this is the precedant for Invelos rules in this area.
Would any of this now changed? or is still the same today for region 1 --USA/Canada . ? | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,494 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote:
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Thanks to Hal and Addicted for pointing the mouse roll-over to me, didn't know you could do that. I've re-submitted my contribuition without the rating change.
Not only you could see those two in the tooltip ("mouse roll-over"), but you could see them in the profile display of your online collection as well. Is this only applicable for USA locality only? I checked both Jungle Book with G rating ( circled), does say and Ratatouille (circled ) doesn't say 'all ages admitted) .. ??  | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think we should only use official MPAA ratings, and not ratings that the publisher puts on the DVD (be it printed or a sticker)
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | @ Pete and BigDaddy...
Thanks. As I said, I hadn't ever seen it. Guess I learned something new today. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
Is this only applicable for USA locality only? I checked both Jungle Book with G rating ( circled), and Ratatouille (circled ) and it does not say 'all ages admitted) .. ?? I believe it is based on the locality. If Canada uses 'G', but doesn't use 'all ages admitted', it won't be in profiler either. Edit: I just looked up the Film Classification list for Canada. It seems that each province uses different verbiage. That may be why Ken opted not to include it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
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Thanks to Hal and Addicted for pointing the mouse roll-over to me, didn't know you could do that. I've re-submitted my contribuition without the rating change.
Not only you could see those two in the tooltip ("mouse roll-over"), but you could see them in the profile display of your online collection as well.
Is this only applicable for USA locality only? I checked both Jungle Book with G rating ( circled), and Ratatouille (circled ) and it does not say 'all ages admitted) .. ??
I believe that's what has been entered for that locality. Some of the UK ratings don't match the actual descriptions either. Profiler -  Actual -  |
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| Registered: May 27, 2007 | | Posts: 175 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
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Edit: I just looked up the Film Classification list for Canada. It seems that each province uses different verbiage. That may be why Ken opted not to include it.
Yes, that is correct. And if you want an amusing example of it, in the 80's when Cosby ruled the sitcoms and Angel Heart came out, in order not to get an X rating in most provinces, the studio was forced to remove portions of the hot blood-filled sex scenes with Lisa Bonet. When the new cut was shipped, it was given an R rating in Ontario and most other provinces, meaning no one under 18 admitted. In Quebec, they had no objection to the scenes, left the original movie untouched, and then rated it 13+ meaning anyone 13 or over could see it, and anyone 12 and under could ALSO see it as long as they were accompanied by someone who was 16 (sixteen) or older. Vive la difference!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
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Ok here is another one. I just submitted Ratatouille (786936-738025) and on the case below the rating "G" it says, "All Ages Admitted," so I added that along with another update. None of the voters had a problem with it except one who said, ""All Ages Admitted" isn't a rating detail. MPAA.org/filmratings.com have no details for this, just "G" (you can't say "Rated G for All Ages Admitted")" Well the rules say to use the case first and then move onto the other options. The way I look at is that its in the rating block, just like the other descriptions, so it should be included.
I agree with the no voter on that. That is not the rating details... but the definition of a G Rating. Which is already preserved in Profiler... we don't need it a second time. \
See Here...
This is how it is now (without Rating Details):
Here is how you are submitting: (with Ratings Details added)
As I said... this is different then Rating Details... it is more of a definition for the rating itself... which is already there... why would we want to see it on there twice? I am bumping this to bring it back into view and peoples minds as it is being done again (by someone else) now with Cars (786936-271898) and what is really strange is everyone is voting yes. I am the first no vote. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I am bumping this to bring it back into view and peoples minds as it is being done again (by someone else) now with Cars (786936-271898) and what is really strange is everyone is voting yes. I am the first no vote. I think it's going to be for the same reason that I was initially adding those generic descriptions, the rules don't say not to contribute them. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken probably didn't feel the need (or thought of it) to put in the rules not to add the rating definitions as rating details. But if it is something that needs to be done I will bring it up in the rules committee forum. I just not sure it needs to be done yet. This is only the second time I seen this come up so far. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 9, 2008 | | Posts: 467 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
So there is no mention of being official MPAA rating details... no mention of MPAA what-so-ever... I see absolutely nothing in the rules to suggest anything like that at all... So I do believe in the cases where it is on the DVD Case, a rating page display onscreen or filmratings.com (or such for your region) then it should indeed be added into profiler. I agree that based on the rules if there are rating details on the case (highest order of preference) even for unrated films. |
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| Registered: September 14, 2007 | | Posts: 49 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tkinnen: Quote:
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So there is no mention of being official MPAA rating details... no mention of MPAA what-so-ever... I see absolutely nothing in the rules to suggest anything like that at all... So I do believe in the cases where it is on the DVD Case, a rating page display onscreen or filmratings.com (or such for your region) then it should indeed be added into profiler.
I agree that based on the rules if there are rating details on the case (highest order of preference) even for unrated films. Agreed. I have come across a few unrated titles myself that include this information on the case- Death by Engagement upc no. 824355523720- is unrated and indicates "Adult Language, Graphic Violence and Gore, Sexual Content, Nudity, Drug Use and Smoking" |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 940 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
I think it's going to be for the same reason that I was initially adding those generic descriptions, the rules don't say not to contribute them. Actually, the rules do say not to include them in an indirect way: Quote:
Enter rating details as shown, excluding the rating itself and trailing period. e.g. "Rated R for sci-fi violence and brief language." is entered as "Sci-fi Violence and Brief Language". Obtain the rating details in order of preference from: The bold details is emphasizing that we are to enter the details not the generic description of the rating. At least the way I read that statement | | | | Kevin |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's just it though, that info "Suitable only for persons of 12 years and over" for example IS rating details. It's just generic to that classification & not the specific film. Quote:
At least the way I read that statement I think you've nailed it there. This & some other rules do (intentionally or not) allow for personal interpretation. Just to add, I do agree that they shouldn't be added to the box as they don't need to be there twice but can see why some people would say otherwise. |
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