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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think we will just have to continue asking for a Distributor field... What's another year or two?  | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's the point Patsa, we had a Distributor field. But that wasn't good enough and they weren't interested in ANY compromise. They simply wanted to wreck data which at least half the coimmunity understood and wanted. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I disagree, Unicus.
"Enter the DVD publishing company which is usually found (dated with the year of the DVD release) on the back of the box. If the DVD Publishing company isn't located on the box or packaging, take the DVD publisher from the disc's credits."
BVHRE is so listed, DisneyDVD, THV, etc are represented merly by LOGO. So my read of the Rules is that you are WRONG. BVHE remains CORRECT There is nothing in the rule that prohibits the use of the logo as the source for the name...at least nothing that I have seen. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Rule tells youy where to find the data Unicus quite definitively. Now you are squirming, amigo. It does not need to mention the logo since it spells out where the data is. Have to go now, don't give me too much to read when I get home.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I disagree, Unicus.
"Enter the DVD publishing company which is usually found (dated with the year of the DVD release) on the back of the box. If the DVD Publishing company isn't located on the box or packaging, take the DVD publisher from the disc's credits."
BVHRE is so listed, DisneyDVD, THV, etc are represented merly by LOGO. So my read of the Rules is that you are WRONG. BVHE remains CORRECT
Skip Except that BVHE is not a "DVD publishing company"; they are a distributor. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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Publisher was no compromise, iI have outlined elsewhere what a Compromise would have been. Publisher is a total fabrication without definition within the film industry.
Picky, picky, picky. A compromise doesn't require 100% participation. You can't say this was not a compromise simply because you don't agree with it. Ken used Publisher because you guys wouldn't let him go with Producer or Label, which were probably more representative of what we think belongs in the field. So who cares whether it has any definition within the film industry? This is DVD Profiler, not the film industry, as I recall you arguing many times in the past. On this point, I have to agree with Skip. 'Publisher' is a term used in the print industry. My preference would have been "DVD Production:'. When displayed, that would read, "DVD Production: Touchstone Home Video." That, for me, would have looked just fine and is far more preferable to using a term that is meaningless in the film industry. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
The Rule tells youy where to find the data Unicus quite definitively. Now you are squirming, amigo. It does not need to mention the logo since it spells out where the data is. No, it does not tell us where to find the data 'definitively'. It tells us where we can 'usually' find the data. The use of the word 'usually' means "most of the time." I am sorry but, 'most of the time', is not definitive...not even close. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Can we at least agree that Touchstone Home Video does not belong in the "Studios" section?
It is not a Theatrical Release or Film Production Studio. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
That's the point Patsa, we had a Distributor field. But that wasn't good enough and they weren't interested in ANY compromise. They simply wanted to wreck data which at least half the coimmunity understood and wanted. A compromise was found in the rules forum. The arguing parties did that in a mostly friendly and respectful manner while ignoring your fuming and your attempts to derail the discussion. | | | | Matthias |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Can we at least agree that Touchstone Home Video does not belong in the "Studios" section?
It is not a Theatrical Release or Film Production Studio. As I said in my previous post, you are correct, it is neither a Theatrical Release nor a Film Production Studio. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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That's the point Patsa, we had a Distributor field. But that wasn't good enough and they weren't interested in ANY compromise. They simply wanted to wreck data which at least half the coimmunity understood and wanted.
A compromise was found in the rules forum. The arguing parties did that in a mostly friendly and respectful manner while ignoring your fuming and your attempts to derail the discussion. My point exactly, Matthias. Dispite Skip's unfounded contrary statement there WAS a compromise. He seems to thing that the fact that he didn't agree means that no one else did. As far as the term Publisher goes, I realize that it is not used in the film industry. But that is not to say that it CAN'T be used here. Would I have prefered Producer or Production? Of course, but when that was proposed Skip tried to derail it, too. He simply will not accept any opinion other than his own on this and accuses people of trying to "corrupt" the data. And that is simply untrue. Just because I don't care about tracking the distributor doesn't mean I want to corrupt anything. All along I thought we were going to have a new field to track what was important to me. Now it appears that people, many of whom were silent about requesting a new field, think that the new field that Ken set up belongs to them and I'm supposed to be a good soldier and wait even longer. I can deal with whatever Ken ultimately decides about this issue. But I resent the HELL out of people like Skip accusing me of trying to corrupt the data. And I have yet to see someone explain why it is more ithe name of the postman is more important than the name of the person who wrote the letter. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.
DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
Quoting goodguy:
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Quoting skipnet50:
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That's the point Patsa, we had a Distributor field. But that wasn't good enough and they weren't interested in ANY compromise. They simply wanted to wreck data which at least half the coimmunity understood and wanted.
A compromise was found in the rules forum. The arguing parties did that in a mostly friendly and respectful manner while ignoring your fuming and your attempts to derail the discussion.
My point exactly, Matthias. Dispite Skip's unfounded contrary statement there WAS a compromise. He seems to thing that the fact that he didn't agree means that no one else did.
As far as the term Publisher goes, I realize that it is not used in the film industry. But that is not to say that it CAN'T be used here. Would I have prefered Producer or Production? Of course, but when that was proposed Skip tried to derail it, too. He simply will not accept any opinion other than his own on this and accuses people of trying to "corrupt" the data. And that is simply untrue. Just because I don't care about tracking the distributor doesn't mean I want to corrupt anything. All along I thought we were going to have a new field to track what was important to me. Now it appears that people, many of whom were silent about requesting a new field, think that the new field that Ken set up belongs to them and I'm supposed to be a good soldier and wait even longer.
I can deal with whatever Ken ultimately decides about this issue. But I resent the HELL out of people like Skip accusing me of trying to corrupt the data. And I have yet to see someone explain why it is more ithe name of the postman is more important than the name of the person who wrote the letter. Ken, Skip thinks that he can always ask the postman his name. But he fears that the letter writer might have left it unsigned. He likes data that he can 'always find', even if it is useless! I for one agree with you. I would like to track the company that put the film on the DVD, not the one that put it on the truck. pdf | | | Paul Francis
San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
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All along I thought we were going to have a new field to track what was important to me. Now it appears that people, many of whom were silent about requesting a new field, think that the new field that Ken set up belongs to them and I'm supposed to be a good soldier and wait even longer.
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I think we all thought we were going to get a set of fields similar to the studio fields. I also don't think that anybody believes you should just wait. What caused the confusion is that, initially, the new feld was called 'Distributor'. That lead most of us to believe that it was simply a new field for the data, that we left out of the studio field, when there wasn't room. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
All along I thought we were going to have a new field to track what was important to me. Now it appears that people, many of whom were silent about requesting a new field, think that the new field that Ken set up belongs to them and I'm supposed to be a good soldier and wait even longer.
Oops, I didn't realize the field belonged to you. I guess the rest of us can go along now, nothing to see here. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
That lead most of us to believe that it was simply a new field for the data, that we left out of the studio field, when there wasn't room. I think that's what Ken intended initially. Then a bunch of folks realized that 'The Criterion Collection' would not be able to go into this field "officially" and things went to hell in a hand basket real fast after that! | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Patsa: Quote:
Quoting kdh1949:
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All along I thought we were going to have a new field to track what was important to me. Now it appears that people, many of whom were silent about requesting a new field, think that the new field that Ken set up belongs to them and I'm supposed to be a good soldier and wait even longer.
Oops, I didn't realize the field belonged to you. I guess the rest of us can go along now, nothing to see here. No, I never thought the field belonged to me. But tone of your response reflects precisely the way I felt when people jumped right in and told me what I wanted wasn't important and wasn't what the field was set up for. It works both ways, after all. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.
DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 |
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