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How much does it bug you when you see mediocre genre selections?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRooster6975
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Personally I have it listed under:
Martial Arts
Romance

I'm toying with the idea of a custom genre of Tragedy which would also apply IMO.


Had to check mine, its as Action, Drama, Romance. Dont really use "Martial Arts" in many movies in my local. To me its like giving "Firearm" genre name to a Die Hard movie. I mean if House of Flying Daggers is a martial arts movie, then so are all the Bourne Identity movies too.


Hi,

I understand what you are saying, however let me elaborate a little on the history of House of Flying Daggers.  Technically, this is a wuxia picture, which should be the first Genre listed.  However, even I will admit that is getting mighty specific.  The Wuxia genre is a blend of Martial Arts (wushu) with a Code of Honour (Xia).  To the Chinese, this type of story is second nature, comparable to the Western stories of King Arthur, Robin Hood, or even Western movies where the hero comes up against incredible odds to defeat evil.  In all wuxia media, the hero always has abilities developed beyond normal human ones, such as martial arts so refined they are at one with the elements and can therefore run on water, run up trees, practically fly, all by using their incredibly honed Martial Arts talents.  All wuxia features good vs. evil, and most feature tragic love interests.  Generally the stories are set in the distant path, and are filled with heroes, villains, beggars, assassins, thieves, princes and priests.  It is an alternate reality (comparable to our idea of superheroes, Gotham City, Metropolis, etc.) and almost all wuxia films feature wire-guided wushu (meaning a single kick will send someone spinning off into the distance, heroes run on water, daggers are thrown from great distances and seem to follow their targets).  You can get some fantastically bad films (such as Jet Li's The Evil Cult, and some very good ones; Hero, House of Flying Daggers) but you have to know there will always be fantastic elements to wuxia films.

Therefore House of Flying Daggers, if you are not going to use "Wuxia" as the genre, is properly defined as Martial Arts first, and Romance second as the romance elements were certainly more defined than in most wuxia pics.  Of course, as noted, all of this is very subjective, but just wanted you to understand the setting.

DD.
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Once again, rooster you are overly comcerned about genreand order of the data. It is a VERY personal choice, we could sit and argue about this all day and forever and be no closer to an answer. The system is set up to allow for your personal preferences in the data, that is why we have LOCAL side to the database. The Online side is what it is and unless the data is blatantly incorrect, such as calling Star trek a Western, then we don't change it and the order of them from an Online view point is completely irrelevant. Don't worry about it, you'll give yourself an ulcer. Worry about YOUR data and make sure that it reflects the data the way YOU want it to appear

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Hi,

I understand what you are saying, however let me elaborate a little on the history of House of Flying Daggers.  Technically, this is a wuxia picture, which should be the first Genre listed.  However, even I will admit that is getting mighty specific.  The Wuxia genre is a blend of Martial Arts (wushu) with a Code of Honour (Xia).  To the Chinese, this type of story is second nature, comparable to the Western stories of King Arthur, Robin Hood, or even Western movies where the hero comes up against incredible odds to defeat evil.  In all wuxia media, the hero always has abilities developed beyond normal human ones, such as martial arts so refined they are at one with the elements and can therefore run on water, run up trees, practically fly, all by using their incredibly honed Martial Arts talents.  All wuxia features good vs. evil, and most feature tragic love interests.  Generally the stories are set in the distant path, and are filled with heroes, villains, beggars, assassins, thieves, princes and priests.  It is an alternate reality (comparable to our idea of superheroes, Gotham City, Metropolis, etc.) and almost all wuxia films feature wire-guided wushu (meaning a single kick will send someone spinning off into the distance, heroes run on water, daggers are thrown from great distances and seem to follow their targets).  You can get some fantastically bad films (such as Jet Li's The Evil Cult, and some very good ones; Hero, House of Flying Daggers) but you have to know there will always be fantastic elements to wuxia films.

Therefore House of Flying Daggers, if you are not going to use "Wuxia" as the genre, is properly defined as Martial Arts first, and Romance second as the romance elements were certainly more defined than in most wuxia pics.  Of course, as noted, all of this is very subjective, but just wanted you to understand the setting.

DD.


Thanks for the background information. It's very interesting. I'll probably add a Wuxia genre as a custom genre and then add it to some of my films.

Of course in 3 months time I won't remember why I used it (or what it means..)
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Once again, rooster you are overly comcerned about genre and order of the data.
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Nah, that's why I added this bit : "Of course, as noted, all of this is very subjective, but just wanted you to understand the setting."

In order to properly categorize a film with a genre, it helps to have a little insight.  But hey, if you want to categorize House of Flying Daggers as Romance, more power to you.  As I said, I won't up any of my Genre preferences, I'll just "correct" them locally. 

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nOw you're cooking.

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