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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hal, you'll get a lot further when you are followiing the Rules to begin with. then we can discuss these issues. What do i refer to, simply porting over (uncredited) data WITH NO documentation to support the data. For ONE. Also ontributing data, like someone else I know from a profile which had been properly set up at IVS EIGHTEEN months prior to the changeover, but you chose NOT to update your data and when you Contributed the data, it was WRONG and is now being questioned.  Sorry, Hal. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Hal, you'll get a lot further when you are followiing the Rules to begin with. then we can discuss these issues.
What do i refer to, simply porting over (uncredited) data WITH NO documentation to support the data. For ONE. Also ontributing data, like someone else I know from a profile which had been properly set up at IVS EIGHTEEN months prior to the changeover, but you chose NOT to update your data and when you Contributed the data, it was WRONG and is now being questioned. Sorry, Hal.
Skip Red Herring Alert! This has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Skip, you are attempting to make a judgment about the credit that appears in the film instead of simply entering "exactly what you see". In your opinion, the book has nothing to do with the film. True or not, that observation is irrelevant. All we care about is what actually appears on screen and what appears on screen is an OMB credit according to the Rules and the program itself. That is not an opinion; it is a fact. I do agree that you are sorry, however.  | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | No, not at all. Hal. you are refusing to acknowledge this. I am greatly disappointed in you on this. you are trying to cloud issues on rules when you clearly aren't following them to begin with. Your absolute refusal to update your profiels, BUT contribute them unupdated has resulted in a CLT which is a mess, the data at IVS was CORRECT but not after you got through with it. You aren't alone in this regard. Just throw whatever data you happen to have handy and to hell with the repurcussions. And while you do this you choose to try and cloud issues on other Rules, makes me wonder exactly what your motive is.
You may not like this and i don't either, i am not the one playing the game. I can provide factual information regarding data and titl;es, complete with dates and so on, hal. before you start trying to deal with irrelevant side issues and trying to shoehorn data, you should be at least following the rules to begin with. And you aren't.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
No, not at all. Hal. you are refusing to acknowledge this. I am greatly disappointed in you on this. you are trying to cloud issues on rules when you clearly aren't following them to begin with. Your absolute refusal to update your profiels, BUT contribute them unupdated has resulted in a CLT which is a mess, the data at IVS was CORRECT but not after you got through with it. You aren't alone in this regard. Just throw whatever data you happen to have handy and to hell with the repurcussions. And while you do this you choose to try and cloud issues on other Rules, makes me wonder exactly what your motive is.
You may not like this and i don't either, i am not the one playing the game. I can provide factual information regarding data and titl;es, complete with dates and so on, hal. before you start trying to deal with irrelevant side issues and trying to shoehorn data, you should be at least following the rules to begin with. And you aren't.
Skip This reminds me of the current political mud-slinging. Instead of addressing the issues at hand, attack the character and integrity of the other side. Are you going to address the fact that the film makers gave the book and its authors a credit in the film or are you going to continue your personal attack on me?  | | | | Hal |
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| | Posted: | | | | OMB. | | | ...James
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| Registered: June 3, 2007 | | Posts: 333 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's an OMB credit. There's simply no question.
I'm actually shocked that Skip would feel otherwise. How much material is taken from the source is irrelevent and we shouldn't be judging. (Look at some of the Alan Moore adaptions. From Hell and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen have little, if any to do with their alleged source material.) The makers chose to give credit.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Simple snark. We have no provision for Suggested by credit and I can't figure out where it fits and OMB ain't it. As I detailed and no one has proivided an argument which makes any sense. Certainly not hal nor james.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Simple snark. We have no provision for Suggested by credit and I can't figure out where it fits and OMB ain't it. As I detailed and no one has proivided an argument which makes any sense. Certainly not hal nor james.
Skip There's also no provision for "Based on a Book by" but we give it an OMB credit all the time. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's a totally different credit from SUGGESTED by or INSPIRED by, Hal.That's a red herring
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| | Posted: | | | | I have to admit that I would also give it an OMB credit. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Somebody explain. the rationale please
Based on is NOT synonymous with SUGGESTED by or INSPIRED by. Not even close.
Noiw I suppose one could argue the legalities of Philip K. Dick, which if recall correctly won his suit against WB and Ridley Scott because Blade Runner was loosely based or inspired by his story.<shrugs>
Ther is simply no basis that I can find to call this OMB. I would love to, I will only say that if anywhere that is closest. But... I am trying here and no one is helping. hal is being his normal irrational and illogical self.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
That's a totally different credit from SUGGESTED by or INSPIRED by, Hal.That's a red herring
Skip No it's not. You claim there is no proviosion in the Rules for a "Suggested in Part By the Book by...." Show me where in the Rules it refers to a credit of "Based on a Book By". It's not there, yet we all know that it gets a OMB. The film makers gave credit to the book for a reason. Something about this movie is close enough to the book to compel them to credit the book. Books are OMB. They are nothing else. The verbiage "Suggested in Part by..." is irrelevant. What matters is that a book is credited. Therefore it is an OMB credit. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: June 3, 2007 | | Posts: 333 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sorry Skip, but you're flat out wrong this time.
The rules for an OMB credit state "Adapted from another medium" and the film makers state that their starting point was "The Coming Global Superstorm". The degree of the adaption isn't an issue. It doesn't matter if the book is fiction or non-fiction, if characrters have beeen added, nor does the verbiage of the credit. The film makers gave credit where they felt it was due and we should do the same. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You do not present me a cogent argumen, hal, only fog. Based on means the story was taken directly from the original Material, most of all the caharcters are also derived from the Original material Suggested by, No characters, no PLOT, no Characters, no NOTHING. Oh this book is about a BIG storm, maybe we can make a movie.  All you have convinced me of Hal, is that you have immense desire to be contrary Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hmmm that's the closest thing to a rational comment yet, snark. i have to leave, I shall cogitate
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