I do not keep it that way as I don't think it makes much sense.  I prefer the old way of doing it.  I will not vote against these kinds of changes as, technically, they are within the rules...but I don't have to like it. 

Fair enough.  That the beauty of this program, we all get what we want locally.

Quoting skipnet50:

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Synner's handling with Credited As would be in complete compliance with the Rules.

No, it is NOT, Skip: it's actually ridiculous and it hurts the credit lookup tool results for the actors involved. Additionally, for many people for which this type of credit appears (I can easily supply a dozen), it's their only credit, and using your logic, their "common name" would actually be "Himself". That way you could enter "Himself as Himself" and still claim that you're following the rules...

Again: not only is it absolutely ridiculous, but it also hurts the CLT results and it's an abuse of the "credited as" feature: what if Robert Klein was erroneously spelled as "Robert Kleinn" here? That's what the "credited as" feature is meant for: to deal with name variants. That should be entered as "Robert Klein [Robert Kleinn] as Himself". However, you couldn't do that, since you would have already used the "credited as" field for dealing with a formatting issue! This blatant misuse of the "credited as" feature should NOT be allowed under any circumstance!!

Are we looking for data that is actually accurate and usable, or are we just trying to mess it all up beyond any form of usability? I repeat: this should not be allowed, and I urge anyone to vote against such garbage if you happen to come accross it. Please don't be polite and think "well, I don't like it, but I'll vote neutral" - fight as hard as you can against these few people that seem intent on rendering our data absolutely useless! I'm sorry if I come off a bit strong here, but this is really taking the insanity a bit too far.

Let's also not forget this recent poll on the subject...

Quoting mdnitoil:

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As far as I'm concerned the CLT is already useless, not to mention the single most abused tool we have.  Anymore, when I see CLT cited in the update notes, I figure its still potluck that the data is dead wrong.  Scary how often that turns out to be the case.

Absolutely true, but stilll... We should be focussing on improving things, not making matters even worse. As I see it, this is a typical example of about five users messing up something that is perfectly simple for the other 99,8% users of the program, yet those few users intent on messing up our data beyond any form of usability are seemingly getting free reign. Again, using the "credited as" feature to deal with such formatting issues is a downright abuse of the feature, and should not be tolerated.

Quoting 8ballMax:

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Himself did not play Robert Klein in the film. Robert Klein appeared in this film as himself. The credit in Profiler is Robert//Klein as Himself.

That's correct for DVDP. The credits in the movie actually make sense too. A character Robert Klein appears in the movie, played by himself. This is not an error in the end credits, just a matter of how to read them.

You are right. Hollywood should do something about those free form credits. They may even learn from DVDP...

Quoting Daddy DVD:

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Quoting T!M:

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what if Robert Klein was erroneously spelled as "Robert Kleinn" here? That's what the "credited as" feature is meant for: to deal with name variants. That should be entered as "Robert Klein [Robert Kleinn] as Himself".

Eh no, then it should be entered as: Robert Klein [Himself] as Robert Kleinn, because Himself is presented as a name and Robert Klein as a role.

No!! "Robert Klein" is the name and "Himself" is the role name. Again, you're abusing the "credited as" feature to deal with a formatting issue, and as a result of that behaviour, you're actually hurting the CLT results for the actors involved. And, as I've said before: I can easily supply a dozen of such examples where these are the ONLY acting credits for the people involved. Based on this twisted logic, "Himself" would be the "common name" for each of them, resulting in their names being completely eliminated from DVD Profiler. Or do those rules ("use the most-credited form") suddenly don't apply anymore? Come on: you can't have it both ways.

I suggest that you correctly recognize the actor name as the "name" and "Himself" as the role name, and use the fields appropriately, but if you keep insisting that "Himself" really is the actor name, then the rules with regards to actor names apply, including "use the most-credited form for the actor's name". If everything else fails to convince you, at least this should tell you you're making a mistake.

Quoting T!M:

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No!! "Robert Klein" is the name and "Himself" is the role name. Again, you're abusing the "credited as" feature to deal with a formatting issue, and as a result of that behaviour, you're actually hurting the CLT results for the actors involved.

Robert Klein is presented in the "role" column and Himself is presented in the "name" column. To show the cast list exactly as credited you need to place the names in the appropriate fields. That this creates a worthless common name in the CLT is a thing we just have to live with.