Being a former soldier myself, it should be Cpl. John // Miller USMC

or if it was another branch it would be Cpl. John // Miller US Army

People that have retired use this alot. It is done this way for ages out of respect and in my opinion it should be done this way for the data base also, aslong as it is credited that way in the end credits.

In the data base there is a profile of The Guardian with some of the cast credit as Lt. Ron // Fein, USCG as Wickham.

While I see what you are saying, Hilbert. In reality I don't see this as a very likely problem. They are military personnel first and foremost, and typically work as extras or minor roles in a single movie. I have yet to ever run into a duplicate military entry. The more likely issue would be Cpl. John // Miller, USMC, Ret. but I have yet to see multiple entries of this nature either. So while I understand the theory, I think relaity is another story altogether. Now watch, now that I have said that I will run into one soon. That's always the way it works.

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But why not try to find a simple common name?  In this case and in others. Actually this is more work than it needs to be. It would be easier to make some exclusions from the "most credited" rule. For example always use the same standard suffix for junior and senior.

Agreed. The purpose is to link different credited names in the most efficient way. A simpler system -for example always use the same standard suffix for junior and senior, as you said- would be welcome, IMO.

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Or use use the natural name of the person is there where titles and military ranks. This means to use "Al Gore" as common name instead of Vice President Al//Gore like in Futurama Season Two without using the CLT. This would be a one time work and we never need to touch this entries again...

Good idea.
Of course the last word is up to Ken.

I think it would be better to have seperate fields for suffixes and prefixes (except maybe for Jr./Sr. and Roman Numerals) in order to easily filter out any differences in the past or changes in the future.

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The current system has its flaws, but compared to any standards... It's really simple! 

Is it?
1. For starters, how do you know when a certain name has to be searched for in the CLT?
2. How do you know what other names and variants to compare it with?
3. How can you be sure all the results refer to the same person?
4. How do you know if the correct Common Name has changed in time because of new credits / corrections?
5. How do you count the results? By titles? (including localized translations of the same title), by movies?, by total profiles?

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1. For starters, how do you know when a certain name has to be searched for in the CLT?

Mostly, when I see an actor name that isn't link with other movies that I own.

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2. How do you know what other names and variants to compare it with?

I compare it with the credited names I have in those other movies

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3. How can you be sure all the results refer to the same person?

I will mostly use online ressources to research the person's bio

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4. How do you know if the correct Common Name has changed in time because of new credits / corrections?

That the biggest flaw for the current system.  I guess, we'll have to live with it until Invelos comes up with an alternative.

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5. How do you count the results? By titles? (including localized translations of the same title), by movies?, by total profiles?

Since there a lot of inconsistency with the results.  For example, an actor credited differently for two profiles of the same movie, I personnelly prefer to count the number of titles/movies.

Well, here I go again, repeating the same old. Ken suggested recently that once a Common name is established the system will make any necessary adjustments automatically. For this i guess we will have to wait and see, how and if that works in practice


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Odd including military rank in credits.  I've seen them removed from profiles and I've done so as well.

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Odd including military rank in credits.  I've seen them removed from profiles and I've done so as well.

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I have NEVER done so (removed or not included them), nor have i approved of it. But far be it from me to say anything, since all that happens is endless fights with nobody wanting to listen. Well, Gerri has now spoken to it herself, and what she said was in keeping with where I was. So let's close the topic shall we, they are not guild/associations and are included. I don't need to say anything more. Or are we also unwilling to listen to Gerri. Hmmmmmm

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