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Two-line dividers for long episode titles
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just completed "The Adams Chronicles", most of the titles were very long.
I just let them end in where they ended, even in the middle of a word.
After all if episode or chapter titles, in this case are that long, it will unique enough to identify them and that is the purpose, is it not?
I've tried both ways.

I think this is the best approach because it will show that a longer field is needed, it prevents abbreviation discussions and the use of a (ugly) second, third, etc. divider.
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just completed "The Adams Chronicles", most of the titles were very long.
I just let them end in where they ended, even in the middle of a word.
After all if episode or chapter titles, in this case are that long, it will unique enough to identify them and that is the purpose, is it not?
I've tried both ways.

I think this is the best approach because it will show that a longer field is needed, it prevents abbreviation discussions and the use of a (ugly) second, third, etc. divider.

In principle I do agree! But I would add an ellipsis (...) as the last part of the abbreviated title.
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I normally use the ellipsis myself.

OK... This is a new one. Someone seems very confused with the episode title rule. Either there is a language barrier or he is screwing with us... or a little of both as I thought the rule is completely clear.

This is the same person I voted no to for not using the episode numbers in the dividers. This time he is interpreting this rule...

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Enter the episode number and title in the divider that marks the beginning of that episode's credit list. The divider should be formatted as "1. Episode Title", or "Episode 1" if no title is available.


he is interpreting it to change Alf: Season 1  Disc level profiles like this...

1. ALF Pilot - changing to - 1. Episode ALF Pilot
2. On the Road Again - changing to - 2. Episode On the Road Again
3. Pennsylvania 6-5000 - changing to - 3. Episode Pennsylvania 6-5000
etc...

And after I voted no he updated his notes to quote the rule that I quoted above. I sent him a PM... hopefully I can get him to understand.
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I normally use the ellipsis myself.

OK... This is a new one. Someone seems very confused with the episode title rule. Either there is a language barrier or he is screwing with us... or a little of both as I thought the rule is completely clear.

This is the same person I voted no to for not using the episode numbers in the dividers. This time he is interpreting this rule...

Quote:
Enter the episode number and title in the divider that marks the beginning of that episode's credit list. The divider should be formatted as "1. Episode Title", or "Episode 1" if no title is available.


he is interpreting it to change Alf: Season 1  Disc level profiles like this...

1. ALF Pilot - changing to - 1. Episode ALF Pilot
2. On the Road Again - changing to - 2. Episode On the Road Again
3. Pennsylvania 6-5000 - changing to - 3. Episode Pennsylvania 6-5000
etc...

And after I voted no he updated his notes to quote the rule that I quoted above. I sent him a PM... hopefully I can get him to understand.


he is doing exactly as the rule states - Enter Number enter word Episode Enter Title  of episode

In fact - does this mean that we have to chaneg all the titles in the database so these follow the leter of this rule?
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No... it is saying enter the number and the episode title. it says to use the format of 1. episode name.

Not to put number... then episode then name.

episode name clearly means what you use when there is an episode name available.
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I personally do not like the look of it... but I don't see anything in the rules against it.

Agreed.


Same here
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I normally use the ellipsis myself.

OK... This is a new one. Someone seems very confused with the episode title rule. Either there is a language barrier or he is screwing with us... or a little of both as I thought the rule is completely clear.

This is the same person I voted no to for not using the episode numbers in the dividers. This time he is interpreting this rule...

Quote:
Enter the episode number and title in the divider that marks the beginning of that episode's credit list. The divider should be formatted as "1. Episode Title", or "Episode 1" if no title is available.


he is interpreting it to change Alf: Season 1  Disc level profiles like this...

1. ALF Pilot - changing to - 1. Episode ALF Pilot
2. On the Road Again - changing to - 2. Episode On the Road Again
3. Pennsylvania 6-5000 - changing to - 3. Episode Pennsylvania 6-5000
etc...

And after I voted no he updated his notes to quote the rule that I quoted above. I sent him a PM... hopefully I can get him to understand.


he is doing exactly as the rule states - Enter Number enter word Episode Enter Title  of episode

In fact - does this mean that we have to chaneg all the titles in the database so these follow the leter of this rule?


Yes, Pauls those are incorrect entries and must be changed by somebody.

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I sure hope that is an attempt at sarcasm Skip!
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Well, yes. Not a good one but yeah.

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LOL... ok... scared me for a second there Skip   
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Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
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just completed "The Adams Chronicles", most of the titles were very long.
I just let them end in where they ended, even in the middle of a word.
After all if episode or chapter titles, in this case are that long, it will unique enough to identify them and that is the purpose, is it not?
I've tried both ways.

I think this is the best approach because it will show that a longer field is needed, it prevents abbreviation discussions and the use of a (ugly) second, third, etc. divider.

Okay, I'm convinced.  Srehtims' statement about truncating the title where it ends and that it will be unique enough to identify the episode is true.  The only problem I see with this approach is those few multi-part episode where you'd lose the part number.

I also think the ellipsis is an excellent way to end a truncated title -- so people will know it's not the whole title (unless, of course, the actual title ends in an ellpisis as some do )

I still don't see a second (or third) divider as being all that ugly, but that's just my opinion.  I'll yield to the concensus.
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you should have a preview on this one:
EAN: 8714865556689 Dutch Locality (all seasons have been done like this)
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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Enter the episode number and title in the divider that marks the beginning of that episode's credit list. The divider should be formatted as "1. Episode Title", or "Episode 1" if no title is available.


he is interpreting it to change Alf: Season 1  Disc level profiles like this...

1. ALF Pilot - changing to - 1. Episode ALF Pilot
2. On the Road Again - changing to - 2. Episode On the Road Again
3. Pennsylvania 6-5000 - changing to - 3. Episode Pennsylvania 6-5000
etc...

I guess Ken will have to change the rule to something like:

"1. [Episode title]" where [Episode title] is the actual title of the episode ("On the Road Again")

Sometime I wonder if people are contributing thing just to create trouble where there isn't any.  Paul is right that this user is following the rule Exactly, but I think most people would know that's not what was intended.
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Enter the episode number and title in the divider that marks the beginning of that episode's credit list. The divider should be formatted as "1. Episode Title", or "Episode 1" if no title is available.


he is interpreting it to change Alf: Season 1  Disc level profiles like this...

1. ALF Pilot - changing to - 1. Episode ALF Pilot
2. On the Road Again - changing to - 2. Episode On the Road Again
3. Pennsylvania 6-5000 - changing to - 3. Episode Pennsylvania 6-5000
etc...

I guess Ken will have to change the rule to something like:

"1. [Episode title]" where [Episode title] is the actual title of the episode ("On the Road Again")

Sometime I wonder if people are contributing thing just to create trouble where there isn't any.  Paul is right that this user is following the rule Exactly, but I think most people would know that's not what was intended.


I absolutely believe that is true, I also believe that some users deliberately try to cause controversy here, where there should be none, or it should be much easier to resolve than it is, but I won;'t name names. 

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he is doing exactly as the rule states - Enter Number enter word Episode Enter Title  of episode

In fact - does this mean that we have to chaneg all the titles in the database so these follow the leter of this rule?


He is not following the rule exactly as that is not what the rule states.  The rule states to use the format "1. Episode Title".  The word 'format' means the pattern into which data are systematically arranged.  In that context, it means you enter the episode number and the episode title.

Your suggestion that he is doing exactly as the rule states requires him to ignore the word 'formatted'.  If he were doing that, each episode with a title would have a divider that read "1. Episode Title".  Why?  Because the rule does not say "enter word episode," nor does it say "enter Title of episode."

Sorry, but your reasoning is flawed. 
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Thank You Unicus... that is exactly what I meant. I am glad I am not the only one to see it.
Pete
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