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Capitalization of 'I, ROBOT'?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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There is no provision that says take the title from the Front cover unless you can document something different. There is also nothing in the Rules that addresses stylized data. It's simple. Once he provided outside documentation he was outside the Rules.

Skip

What?
He isn't documenting anything different - where did you get that from?
And to say that just because he has quoted documentation ON TOP OF what was necessary violates the rules is simply ridiculous. Are you seriously saying that you are going to vote "no" on submissions that provide TOO MUCH documentation?
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That does not address the specifics of I, Robot (i, Robot), but even that is irrelevant from my POV, north. There is NO provision which allows him to use ANY outside datasource to determine what a title is or is not.

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Capitalized title. The lower-case "i" on the cover is stylized. Fox online lists the title as "I, Robot".

http://www.foxstore.com/detail.php?item=5283

Is invalid documentation. There is NO provision that allows it.

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@Tony Le,
please add the words "title taken from front cover" to your notes.
It seems some users are unable to understand associative notes.

@Skip,
the user has submitted a valid change and given a valid source - the cover. I can only assume that your refusal to acknowledge this means you are being argumentative just for the sake of making trouble. So unless you're willing to add something valid to this thread, I will no longer reply to your posts.
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Sorry Skip, I have to disagree with you here.

Following the rules, we have a front cover print reading "i, ROBOT". That is the title that shall be entered into the db.

After finding the title on the front cover, the next question is how to capitalize it.

We can either do an exact copy of the printing and enter "i, ROBOT" into the title field. However, applying this approach will lead to numerous necessary changes in other profiles, rendering such profiles either useless (regarding easy searchability through the title field) or nonsensical (all uppercase, random changes of upper and lowercase and so on).

For the vast majority, titles have been entered utilizing standard capitalization of the DVDs language locality in the past.

Under this setup, the title should read "I, Robot".

If someone adds documentation providing further support for the conclusion he drew in step 2 (capitalization), that does not render the contribution irregular, quite the contrary, the user provides documentation for a well practiced utilization of the title rule.
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Sorry, north I will not vote yes to documentation which is not provided for within the Rules. It tells me nothing, and as I said documentation aside, I am not sure that it works, for the Online but I probably would have voted neutral. Tony is new and needs to learn as we all do, you just can't pull a title from SOMEWHERE., it comes from one place.

IF he removes the unacceptable documentation I will vote neutral, as I am sure you can determine from my copy but...I will not support documentation which is not supported in the Rules.

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I simply cannot understand how anyone can vote "no" on a change which replaces incorrect data with correct data and then justifies it by saying that the adiitional documentation provided is not "recognized" or there's no provision for it.  So ignore that documentation, if it makes you feel better.  The rest is correct!

The Rules specifically state:

Quoting Rules:
If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible.

All of those "no" votes are an abuse of the voting privilege, IMHO.
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You are entitled to YOUR opinion, and MY opinion is different from yours, so don't try and tell me that your opinion is more valid than MINE. That is simply wrong. Your opinion is your opinion and you are entitled to it, even IF I believe it to be wrong. So please do the curytesy of grantiong me the same privilege, SIR.

I do not expect you to bow to my opinion, but YOU are neither the judge, so do NOT expect me to bow to yours. Simply acknowledge that your opinion is different. To do otherwise is insulkting and offensive on its face.

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You are entitled to YOUR opinion, and MY opinion is different from yours, so don't try and tell me that your opinion is more valid than MINE. That is simply wrong. Your opinion is your opinion and you are entitled to it, even IF I believe it to be wrong. So please do the curytesy of grantiong me the same privilege, SIR.

Skip


Except my opinion is based on the Rules.

Please show me in the Rules where it says you can vote no because additional documentation provided does not meet your criteria!
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Your opinion is based upon YOUR opinion. My opinion is also based upon the Rules, hal. Please don't push this any further I find your comments to be very insulting and i don't wish to do anything. Your opinion is no more than your opinion and it does supplant MY opinion.

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BTW Hal, I quoted the Rules there is NO PROVISION for ANY kind of outside documentation relative to the Title and you don't want to open that can worms. Remember I CAN provide outside documentation relative to MANY posssessives.

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BTW Hal, I quoted the Rules there is NO PROVISION for ANY kind of outside documentation relative to the Title and you don't want to open that can worms. Remember I CAN provide outside documentation relative to MANY posssessives.

Skip


If additional documentation supports a position that is contrary to the Rules (which is what you are talking about with possessives) then it makes no difference what the additional documentation says.  The Rules over-ride that documentation.

In this case the additional documentation  for the Title supports what the Rules say.  To vote "no" in this case is an abuse of the your voting privileges, IMHO.
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BTW Hal, I quoted the Rules there is NO PROVISION for ANY kind of outside documentation relative to the Title and you don't want to open that can worms. Remember I CAN provide outside documentation relative to MANY posssessives.

Skip


Please show me specifically where the Rules you quoted say that you can vote "no" if the contribution notes contain additional supporting documentation for the title change.
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BTW Hal, I quoted the Rules there is NO PROVISION for ANY kind of outside documentation relative to the Title and you don't want to open that can worms. Remember I CAN provide outside documentation relative to MANY posssessives.

Skip


If additional documentation supports a position that is contrary to the Rules (which is what you are talking about with possessives) then it makes no difference what the additional documentation says.  The Rules over-ride that documentation.

In this case the additional documentation  for the Title supports what the Rules say.  To vote "no" in this case is an abuse of the your voting privileges, IMHO.


And again Hal, I say that is YOUR humble opinion, it is not mine. Nobody died and made you God, therefore stop trying to tell me that your opinion is more important than mine. DROP IT.

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Quoting hal9g:
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BTW Hal, I quoted the Rules there is NO PROVISION for ANY kind of outside documentation relative to the Title and you don't want to open that can worms. Remember I CAN provide outside documentation relative to MANY posssessives.

Skip


Please show me specifically where the Rules you quoted say that you can vote "no" if the contribution notes contain additional supporting documentation for the title change.



Hal:

You don't want to go there. I can document posssessives right out the wazoo, IF outside documentation is acceptable. But its not people got what they wanted...but if you really want to play that game, we can go there, but you won't like it.

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And again Hal, I say that is YOUR humble opinion, it is not mine. Nobody died and made you God, therefore stop trying to tell me that your opinion is more important than mine. DROP IT.

Skip


1. I have stated in each and every post that it was my opinion (IMHO), although I have supported that directly with the Rules.  So why do feel it necessary to state the obvious?

2. I never said or even implied that anyone died and made me God.  I am simply quoting the Rules to support my opinion and asking you to do the same.

3. Not once have I stated that my opinion is more important than yours.

4. As usual, you are evading the issue through the use of flame-baiting.  I am still waiting for you to show me in the Rules where it says you are permitted to vote "no" on a submission which replaces incorrect data wit correct data because additional (unnecessary) documentation is provided.
Hal
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