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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | If the rules state added it from front cover and it does not Blockbuster Exclusive should also be added to the edition field because that would help distinguish between different releases per rules. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting schultzy: Quote:
Also, taking a look at what is in the database, there does not appear to be a full screen version in the database so a "widescreen" identifier doesn't seem to me to be needed . There is already a full screen one in the data base and here is the upc 796019799034 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | After a PM from Dragon 6, I went back and looked at the cover again. It does, in small print near the bottom of the back cover, say 'Widescreen Edition'. That being the case, the use of 'widescreen', in the edition field, is valid. I apologize for missing it the first time around. We all make mistakes and I am more than willing to admit that I did so in this case.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting schultzy: Quote:
This is probably what I would do. I would make the Blockbuster Exclusive it's own profile. Set the edition to Blockbuster Exclusive as it states on the cover art. Do one by UPC and the other by disc ID. Though if they both have the same disc ID that can be an issue as will.
Also, taking a look at what is in the database, there does not appear to be a full screen version in the database so a "widescreen" identifier doesn't seem to me to be needed though an "unrated" one yes. If someone adds the full screen version at some point, I would suggest the "full screen" identifier gets added to that profile. So what I am saying is if all versions in the DB are widescreen, then adding widescreen seems a moot point. Carefull, you're making too much sense and will probably be flogged for doing so.  I understand that BB had the first version and this isn't just a case of BB Weinstein dvds (which probably have different UPC's and disc ID's from their "for sale only" cousins). My complete hatred of BB makes me want to find a way around having their nasty logo on every version of this or any title (I don't even own any of them so I shouldn't care, but my hate is deep enough to make me care) even if it falls under the rules as the proper cover. Maybe BB isn't technically the "mass release", not everyone has a BB in their city/town. I know most do, but some don't. No disrespect to the owner of the disc, starter of the thread, but let's find a reason to bury the BB logo. It's one small step toward eliminating the evil that is BB from the face of the earth! I for one, will not rest until they are just a bad memory. I'm not gonna tell anyone to go burn down a BB store, but I'm not gonna tell you not to either! Don't get caught if you do.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dragon 6: Quote:
Quoting schultzy:
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Also, taking a look at what is in the database, there does not appear to be a full screen version in the database so a "widescreen" identifier doesn't seem to me to be needed .
There is already a full screen one in the data base and here is the upc 796019799034 Thanks. I missed it. Also, it was pointed out that is says widescreen edition on the back cover so like Unicus I now feel the widescreen identifier is fine. I still think it makes sense to do a separate profile for the BB exclusive if possible. | | | Schultzy - http://www.michaelschultz.net
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here is some more info that people are not seeing Blockbuster Exclusive was release on 2/13/2007 and all of the other widescreen and full screen editions where release on 2/13/2007. Yes the same day. So the blockbuster Exclusive does not trump all other versions. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Anyone know if the two versions have the same Disc IDs? | | | Schultzy - http://www.michaelschultz.net
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| Registered: January 5, 2008 | | Posts: 44 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dragon 6: Quote:
Here is some more info that people are not seeing Blockbuster Exclusive was release on 2/13/2007 and all of the other widescreen and full screen editions where release on 2/13/2007. Yes the same day. So the blockbuster Exclusive does not trump all other versions. What we have is an invalid release date, Dragon6, in the disputed profile. Obviously, Blockbuster's version came out before the one in other stores or they could not claim Blockbuster Exclusive. Let's use common sense, here! I am happy to resubmit with the "Blockbuster Exclusive" added to the edition field as well as remove the release date but I get the feeling you would just vote it down again, so I want to reach a consensus here. Right now, it seems like we are going with: keep Widescreen cause it is on the back cover in small print, add Blockbuster Exclusive, and remove release date. Does everyone concur? BTW: the edition field does not have enough spaces to added Blockbuster Exclusive in full. Any suggestions on an acceptable abbreviation, or just type it out and let it end wherever it cuts off? |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting raytrade: Quote:
What we have is an invalid release date, Dragon6, in the disputed profile. Obviously, Blockbuster's version came out before the one in other stores or they could not claim Blockbuster Exclusive. I am not stating the release date is wrong. It still can come out the same day and be a Blockbuster Exclusive. Some special features could make it a Blockbuster Exclusive. Weather it is one the box or not the edition field is to help distinguish between different releases of the same title and as you see we have several different dvd's of the same title. In my opinion it should state something like this: Blockbuster Exclusive: Unrated Ballbuster Edition: Widescreen. This would distinguish between the normal widescreen edition, the full screen edition and the blockbuster exclusive. And once again the blockbuster exclusive does not mean an early release date because there have been Target and best buy exclusives that where released the same day as the others they just had something else that was special to them. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting raytrade: Quote:
I get the feeling you would just vote it down again No I would not vote no if it was correctly contributed. When I first voted not I stated that it was on the box I was within the rules for voting no. you change you contribution note to add this statment in it and it was wrong. Quote:
TO INVELOS STAFF: PLEASE SEE THIS FORUM THREAD WHERE IT IS AGREED MY CONTRIBUTION IS CORRECT: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=244505. SOME VOTERS REFUSED TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND VOTE YES ON THIS I do fallow the rules and if I think something is not fallowing the rules, I double check the rules again and again to make sure that I am voting correctly. |
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| Registered: January 5, 2008 | | Posts: 44 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dragon 6: Quote:
Quoting raytrade:
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What we have is an invalid release date, Dragon6, in the disputed profile. Obviously, Blockbuster's version came out before the one in other stores or they could not claim Blockbuster Exclusive.
I am not stating the release date is wrong. It still can come out the same day and be a Blockbuster Exclusive. Some special features could make it a Blockbuster Exclusive.
Weather it is one the box or not the edition field is to help distinguish between different releases of the same title and as you see we have several different dvd's of the same title.
In my opinion it should state something like this: Blockbuster Exclusive: Unrated Ballbuster Edition: Widescreen.
This would distinguish between the normal widescreen edition, the full screen edition and the blockbuster exclusive.
And once again the blockbuster exclusive does not mean an early release date because there have been Target and best buy exclusives that where released the same day as the others they just had something else that was special to them. Yes, there are exclusives due to content, but in this case, there are no differences between the Blockbuster version and the later release to other stores. You can verify this yourself by looking at the cover images in the database which are of the Blockbuster version. So, logic would say the reason it is an exclusive is that it came out first at Blockbuster, which I am pretty sure is the case anyway from memory. So, the question to the forum becomes: leave the release date as is or remove it as it is unknown at this time? BTW- at the time I edited my contribution note, there was general agreement that I was correct in my changes and at the time, you were insisting from my understanding that your cover was the correct "first release" and so whatever was on the Blockbuster version was not to be applied to the database profile. That has since changed (both the forum consensus and your own clarification of what would be acceptable in that field) and as I said in my previous thread, I am happy to resubmit using your suggested edition of "Blockbuster Exclusive: Unrated Ballbuster Edition: Widescreen". The only problem is the field is nowhere long enough to allow all that to appear. As a matter of fact, all that would appear is: "Blockbuster Exclusive: Unrated Ballbuste" which seems to be inadequate info. My personal suggestion is to have it say: "Blockbuster Exclusive Unrated Ballbuster" which uses all available character spaces, the reasoning being that the word "Edition" is redundant since it is the edition field, and that widescreen is available as info in the video field already. What does everyone feel about that? | | | | Last edited: by raytrade |
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