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Question about Child Profile...for Back to the Future Trilogy.. ?? |
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Registered: May 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,033 |
| Posted: | | | | I think it also bears mention that just because they chose not to release the movies individually doesn't affect its box set status. The Indiana Jones box set while each movie had its own keep case I do not believe that they are available to buy individually. I may be wrong, but I also don't think the first (and even the second) release of the Star Wars Trilogy were available to purchase seperately. And not as sure about the Godfather set, but while I know you can get the movies seperatly, aren't they a different release than those included in the box set?
Either way, if I'm only correct about the Indiana Jones set there is ultimately no difference between the two other than the case type. A multi-disc keep case vs three individual keep cases. Would you change the way the Indiana Jones set was done if it was two 2-disc keep cases instead of four singles?
-Agrare |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Agrare: Quote: I think it also bears mention that just because they chose not to release the movies individually doesn't affect its box set status. The Indiana Jones box set while each movie had its own keep case I do not believe that they are available to buy individually. I may be wrong, but I also don't think the first (and even the second) release of the Star Wars Trilogy were available to purchase seperately. And not as sure about the Godfather set, but while I know you can get the movies seperatly, aren't they a different release than those included in the box set?
Either way, if I'm only correct about the Indiana Jones set there is ultimately no difference between the two other than the case type. A multi-disc keep case vs three individual keep cases. Would you change the way the Indiana Jones set was done if it was two 2-disc keep cases instead of four singles?
-Agrare Yeah, it really doesn't matter as there are innumberable examples of sets of films that have never been released separately, at least in region 1. Frankly, any number of the old Hollywood sets that either Universal or Fox has been putting out would compare. We don't do one long profile to cover the entire Charlie Chan box or any of those Universal Franchise Collections. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote: I am almost positive that the theatrical version from the summer of 1985 did NOT have the words: 'To Be Continued" on the Movie screen . I'm sure I heard somewhere that Universal (Sid Sheinberg) was not going to advance any monies until it was determined that the film was a success. In the fall of 1985 it got the green light, and Then in the summer of 1986 when the home video tapes/ discs of BTTF were released, it was confirmed right then and there that there would be a sequel in the works..
Yeah Marty.. !! As everyone has noted it is irrelevant. BUT To Be Continued was ALWAYS part of BTTF I right from DAY ONE, Terry. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | You can make whatever you want on your local profile, just lock it down. For this and other boxsets, I use poster art, or occasinal single disc version if applicable, when the child profiles have the same artwork as the box due to not having their own case. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote: Quoting widescreenforever:
Quote: I am almost positive that the theatrical version from the summer of 1985 did NOT have the words: 'To Be Continued" on the Movie screen . I'm sure I heard somewhere that Universal (Sid Sheinberg) was not going to advance any monies until it was determined that the film was a success. In the fall of 1985 it got the green light, and Then in the summer of 1986 when the home video tapes/ discs of BTTF were released, it was confirmed right then and there that there would be a sequel in the works..
Yeah Marty.. !!
As everyone has noted it is irrelevant. BUT To Be Continued was ALWAYS part of BTTF I right from DAY ONE, Terry.
Skip Actually it was brought to my attention today, that if you play back the DVD Disc 1 of the BTTF triology of the 1985 film,, it is the true 1985 film and there is NO 'to be continued' at the beginning of the end credit roll. So.. you were then at that time, not aware of any type of sequels when you left the theatre in the summer of 1985.. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,293 |
| Posted: | | | | Agree with all it's three separate movies but wanted to add that I think some versions of the children in the database have differing cover art because when it was re-issued they fixed the matting problem with 2 & 3 but didn't need to with 1 so the re-issue set has different Disc IDs for 2 and 3 but possibly the same for 1 so the two sets are possibly:
Initial release: Part 1v1, Part 2v1, Part 3v1 Re-release: Part 1v1, Part2v2, Part3v2
So the re-release still should have the cover art of the initial release on Disc 1 but not the other two... I hope that makes sense!
As I say, I think that may be one tricky thing with this particular set (though I confess I don't actually have both sets to prove it!) and cause some confusion, though the Rules, can (of course) still be applied but need extra care! | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 223 |
| Posted: | | | | According to this in Wikipedia: Sequels were not initially planned. Zemeckis later stated that had sequels been envisioned, the first film would not have ended with Jennifer traveling in the De Lorean with Marty and Doc, which created logistical problems in plotting the other films. In addition, Zemeckis and Gale state in the DVD commentary that the "To Be Continued..." caption was not originally in the film (the filmmakers chose to omit the caption from the 2002 DVD release to remain true to the original theatrical version).HereHaven't confirmed this myself, so take it for what it's worth.... |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | But none of this changes the way it is handled in profiler and any departure is dealt with strictly on a LOCAL level.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 278 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Voltaire53: Quote: Agree with all it's three separate movies but wanted to add that I think some versions of the children in the database have differing cover art because when it was re-issued they fixed the matting problem with 2 & 3 but didn't need to with 1 so the re-issue set has different Disc IDs for 2 and 3 but possibly the same for 1 so the two sets are possibly:
Initial release: Part 1v1, Part 2v1, Part 3v1 Re-release: Part 1v1, Part2v2, Part3v2
So the re-release still should have the cover art of the initial release on Disc 1 but not the other two
That is correct sir. | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. |
| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kevin Coed: Quote: Quoting Voltaire53:
Quote: Agree with all it's three separate movies but wanted to add that I think some versions of the children in the database have differing cover art because when it was re-issued they fixed the matting problem with 2 & 3 but didn't need to with 1 so the re-issue set has different Disc IDs for 2 and 3 but possibly the same for 1 so the two sets are possibly:
Initial release: Part 1v1, Part 2v1, Part 3v1 Re-release: Part 1v1, Part2v2, Part3v2
So the re-release still should have the cover art of the initial release on Disc 1 but not the other two
That is correct sir. Why would these have different art though? They all came in the same 3 disc case right? Or are you talking about replacment discs that you got from the studio? Did those come with different covers? I bought a "fixed" version when they were allegedly going out of print (still see them in every store 2 years later ), as I knew about the framing issues and the V2's. Either way all my children showed the boxset cover, so I replaced the fronts with orignal poster art for my local and just left the backs how they are. I'm half-tempted to do this with every horrible photoshop cover in collection, esp. a few discs I've printed custom covers for due to heinous studio covers. The whole art department at MGM should be fired IMO, but that's another thread. Back to the topic... | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote: Why would these have different art though? They all came in the same 3 disc case right? Or are you talking about replacment discs that you got from the studio? Did those come with different covers? The replacement disks came in paper sleeves, if I recall. The art couldn't have changed because the original packaging is a 3-disk keepcase. You just popped out the two bad ones and popped in the two new ones. There was no new art. As a matter of fact, there is no art at all, on a per disk level except for the single cover. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 278 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
Why would these have different art though? They all came in the same 3 disc case right? Or are you talking about replacment discs that you got from the studio? Did those come with different covers? I bought a "fixed" version when they were allegedly going out of print (still see them in every store 2 years later ), as I knew about the framing issues and the V2's. Either way all my children showed the boxset cover, so I replaced the fronts with orignal poster art for my local and just left the backs how they are. I'm half-tempted to do this with every horrible photoshop cover in collection, esp. a few discs I've printed custom covers for due to heinous studio covers. The whole art department at MGM should be fired IMO, but that's another thread. Back to the topic... The Trilogy was released as a different boxset later on. The first film's disc is the same as the previous boxset; all the other discs are different. | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. | | | Last edited: by Kevin Coed |
| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kevin Coed: Quote: Quoting bigdaddyhorse:
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Why would these have different art though? They all came in the same 3 disc case right? Or are you talking about replacment discs that you got from the studio? Did those come with different covers? I bought a "fixed" version when they were allegedly going out of print (still see them in every store 2 years later ), as I knew about the framing issues and the V2's. Either way all my children showed the boxset cover, so I replaced the fronts with orignal poster art for my local and just left the backs how they are. I'm half-tempted to do this with every horrible photoshop cover in collection, esp. a few discs I've printed custom covers for due to heinous studio covers. The whole art department at MGM should be fired IMO, but that's another thread. Back to the topic...
The Trilogy was released as a different boxset later on. The first film's disc is the same as the previous boxset; all the other discs are different. Right, and wasn't the only difference on the outside a sticker saying "for a limited time only" or something? I knew I was getting the V2 discs from posts on other forums about it, but can't recall looking for anything other than the sticker (and V2 on the discs after opening). For some reason I thought different art was mentioned. Different disc ID's make perfect sense, but different art wouldn't. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 278 |
| Posted: | | | | There's different artwork on the UK boxset (which is what, I believe, Voltaire53 was talking about; I could be wrong though. I usually am). | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. |
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