Quoting northbloke:

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This is where the confusion comes from. Gerri says "It is where the production companies are based." but at the same time she says that "LOTR would be US."
I think that at the time of posting, Gerri didn't realise that Wingnut was actually an NZ company. Certainly after the subsequent discussion (argument), none of the updates changing the CoO to NZ were declined, at least not on the copies I have.

Then I can see where the confusion comes in, because the Region 1 regular and extended versions I own have the CoO set as 'United States'.  It goes beyond the initial postings because looking at the notes one can see that several people tried over several months to change the CoO on these and all the profiles were either declined or withdrawn.

I guess we'll need an official clarification whether it should be based on distribution studios or production studios.  Or the best solution would be finding out allowing multiple CoO's is coming soon and we can put all of this off until a future beta. 

Quoting tas314:

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Quoting reybr:

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That's not exactly correct either. ALL movies, including foreign language films, that have had a cinematic run for longer than seven days in LA are eligible as long as they have English subtitles. You see that if you go to the next page from the one you linked to 

For example Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was nominated for Best Picture in 2000.

Thanks - didn't know that! 

You are right that New Line are the copyright holder and as Theatrical Distributor they are also first in the credits.
However that quote from Gerri tells us to use the production company, which is Wingnut.
It would be very useful if something could be added to the rules.

The copyright holder is not always (often) the same as the production company and therefore not relevant for the country of origin field.

Quoting Dvdjon:

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sorry guys I will not yield.

www.afi.com AMERICAN FILMINSTITUTE
The Fellowship of the Ring was voted number 50 on the American Film Institute's list of 100 greatest American films.

no matter what semantics one use to make this an NZ production the american filminstitute has made shure this is an AMERICAN movie NOT NZ. And scince New line comes first in the credits the movie should be CoO USA NOT NZ!!!

log in to www.afi.com to look at the different lists. You have to register ;-)

Look at AFI all you want...it's still a 3rd party database. The film's credits credit Wingnut which is the primary production company. New Line is the theatrical release studio. Credits state New Line Presents a Wingnut Films Production.

I've already locked these titles so ya'll can bicker about it all you want...again .

Quoting Dvdjon:

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no matter what semantics one use to make this an NZ production the american filminstitute has made shure this is an AMERICAN movie NOT NZ. And scince New line comes first in the credits the movie should be CoO USA NOT NZ!!!

This would all depend on the criteria the AFI use to qualify a film for their list. And unless they use the primary production company as we do, their choice of country is irrelevant.

Quoting Dvdjon:

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http://www.afi.com/tvevents/afiawards04/pdf/criteriaeligibilityfilm.pdf

American

English language Picture with SIGNIFICANT creative And/or production elements from the us of a.

SIGNIFICANT != primary

I PMd Gerri earlier today asking if she'd mind clarifying the situation and she's just replied:

Quoting Gerri Cole:

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It is supposed to be the country of the main production company. At the time, I didn't realize that WingNut was a NZ company.

-Gerri

Thanks to Gerri.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion people have with CoOs.
Now I can only hope we can remember where this post is when this comes up again in a couple of months!