Quoting skipnet50:

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I agree wait, Tim. I am not telling you NOT to use Common Names, I am only suggesting that you should NOT Contribute them UNTIL we have standards and criteria from Ken and we are all on the same page. As I have said to do otherwise, demonstrates a certain selfishness on your part and lack of consideration for your fellow users as regards the amount of work that MAY have to be undertaken to undo what you have done. If you keep it local for the time being you still have your Common Names and ALL of the functionality resulting from that, additionally keeping them locally means the once Ken releases his standards and criteria the only user who could be impacted is YOU, and if Ken's stanadards and criteria are different from yours you can the decide whether you want to stand pat on your data or change it to whatever Ken chooses.

Speaking very poersonally here I think your insistence reflects very poorly on you because your actions impact EVERY other user and could cause a lot of extra and unnecessary work.

Skip

Another place where Skip is telling others not to do something that he himself is doing.  hypocrisy at it's best. As pointed out in another thread he is already submitting common names (Perry Mason S:1). He himself made the decision of what that name should be based on what he  felt was the correct.

Then he calls you selfish and inconsiderate.    At least you brought it here for others to give their input. 

Excuse me, keep your flame baiting remarks to yourself sir and you GD insults.

I was NOT flaming Tim, i am attempting to talk reason to him, but his own ego seems to be more involved here than the good of the Community , he doesn't care how much work  he might wind up causing other members of the community.

I have also said publicly that my use of Common names is extremely limited, not totally unheard of but VERY  limited. So do me favor, Rick keep yoiur ill-informed opinions to yourself.

Talk about a total %^&, you have good company.

Skip

Quoting lyonsden5:

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Quoting skipnet50:

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I agree wait, Tim. I am not telling you NOT to use Common Names, I am only suggesting that you should NOT Contribute them UNTIL we have standards and criteria from Ken and we are all on the same page. As I have said to do otherwise, demonstrates a certain selfishness on your part and lack of consideration for your fellow users as regards the amount of work that MAY have to be undertaken to undo what you have done. If you keep it local for the time being you still have your Common Names and ALL of the functionality resulting from that, additionally keeping them locally means the once Ken releases his standards and criteria the only user who could be impacted is YOU, and if Ken's stanadards and criteria are different from yours you can the decide whether you want to stand pat on your data or change it to whatever Ken chooses.

Speaking very poersonally here I think your insistence reflects very poorly on you because your actions impact EVERY other user and could cause a lot of extra and unnecessary work.

Skip

Another place where Skip is telling others not to do something that he himself is doing.  Skipocrisy at it's best. As pointed out in another thread he is already submitting common names (Perry Mason S:1). He himself made the decision of what that name should be obased on what he felt was the correct.

Then he has the arrogance to call you selfish and inconsiderate.    At least you brought it here for others to give their input. 

Well, *I'M* not using it, and I say wait as well.  You guys don't have one ounce of willpower amongst you, do you?

Quoting skipnet50:

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Talk about a total %^&, you have good company.

Once again, a lovely example to what these forums have sunk to, all largely thanks to you, Skip. Over the past few weeks, you have time and time again engaged in mud-slinging matches, in which you're usually the one starting to throw around insults like this. You engage in the silliest arguments (the current "quotes" thread, or the issue about 'The Birds' jump to mind), while you're obviously pathologically incapable of participating in an argument. Why? Bacause time and time again, anyone who disagrees with you - even when it's basically EVERYBODY - apparently "just doesn't get it". No matter what the odds are - you're always right and everyone else is always wrong. If that's your attitude - then don't argue at all. If you're so convinced that you know better than all of us, just lock your database and stop contributing. I know you've already "threatened" to do this a number of times, but it never lasts more than a couple of days. Along with your blatant votes against the rules and your abusing attitude in PM's, I really lost the last bit of respect I had for you, and now I'm going to let it all out - just this once.

Quoting lyonsden5:

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Another place where Skip is telling others not to do something that he himself is doing.  Skipocrisy at it's best. As pointed out in another thread he is already submitting common names (Perry Mason S:1). He himself made the decision of what that name should be obased on what he felt was the correct.

Then he has the arrogance to call you selfish and inconsiderate.    At least you brought it here for others to give their input. 

He has to bring it here, as he can't do it anywhere else - I've finally relented and blocked his PM's. I never blocked anyone before, and I never intended to, but those PM-discussions with Skip are like talking to a brick wall. Also, I can well do without another load of offensive messages every time I dared to vote 'no' on one of his contributions, or even to try and "educate" me (as he calls it), or "talk reason" into me because he doesn't agree with how I voted on someone else's (!) contribution.

His behaviour as I've seen it in the past few months, has gone from overenthusiastic or maybe even questionable, to simply intolerable. Abusing users through PM, constantly stating his personal preference as fact, blatantly voting against the rules - as well as being largely responsible for the rather negative attitude on these forums. Do I need to point out that the mud-slinging matches here in the forums reflect poorly on DVD Profiler as a whole? Skip won't succeed in driving me away, but I know a lot of users who have left the forums and stopped contributing solely based on Skip's attitude and abuse. I'm starting to hope that Invelos notices his destructive influence one day and ban him for a while. I really think that could make these forums a better place.

In any case, Skip's attitude is the main reason why I've decided to start posting more in the forums. I've been quite an avid contributor for many years now (compare my contribution stats with Skip's, if you like), but until some time ago I rarely posted something in the forums. But after seeing him present his own personal preference as fact time and time again, I felt it was time for one more "voice of reason" - or at least an opposing voice, haha. Once again, I enjoy debating over all things DVD Profiler, and I understand that a big change in direction like the "common name / credit as"-system is cause for a lot of debate, but I'd like to do it without all these personal attacks. I realise I'm a bit guilty of a "personal attack" myself here, but I just had to vent for once - just this once, I promise.  I'm only interested in taking the software forward, and working towards a database that ultimately is as USEFUL as possible for everyone.

Quoting Rifter:

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There are acknowledged problems with the common name linking function.  Anybody who says otherwise is in denial.  Until Ken figures out a way to eliminate those problems, it makes far more sense to wait than to continue to exascerbate the problem.

Even when Ken/Gerri have put in the rules to use it, have not removed that wording due to the claimed "acknowledged problems", and have also directly advised users to use it. 

Wow, that's taking forcing a personal preference on the community to the extreme - not just against the wishes of the community, but against the wishes of the programmers. 

Quoting skipnet50:

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Excuse me, keep your flame baiting remarks to yourself sir and you GD insults.

I was NOT flaming Tim, i am attempting to talk reason to him, but his own ego seems to be more involved here than the good of the Community , he doesn't care how much work  he might wind up causing other members of the community.

I have also said publicly that my use of Common names is extremely limited, not totally unheard of but VERY  limited. So do me favor, Rick keep yoiur ill-informed opinions to yourself.

Talk about a total %^&, you have good company.

Skip

Insults aside, you called T!M selfish and inconsiderate.  To be precise, you said, "As I have said to do otherwise, demonstrates a certain selfishness on your part and lack of consideration for your fellow users as regards the amount of work that MAY have to be undertaken to undo what you have done."

How can you say that while, at the same time, you are doing the exact same thing?  Whether it is extremely limited or not, the fact is you are using this feature when it suits you and telling everyone else to wait and if they don't, they are selfish and inconsiderate.  Unbelievable.

And you wonder why people insult and attack you. 

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Well, *I'M* not using it, and I say wait as well.  You guys don't have one ounce of willpower amongst you, do you?

I also say wait.  Pete says wait.  The difference here is you, Pete and myself aren't making use of the feature.  We aren't calling people selfish and inconsiderate for using a feature that we are also using.

While I don't always agree with you, I can respect the fact that you aren't saying one thing while doing another.

Quoting skipnet50:

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Show me the standards and criteria, lopek. i knew it wouldn't be long before you reared your ugly visage again. you never miss the chance.
Clueless, absolutely clueless...the lot of you.

Skip

Once again you can always be counted on to prove my point (see my previous post)... Lopek's post was, although you apparently don't agree with him, entirely valid. How is your post constructive in any way? We badly need some moderators to remove crap like this. I'm starting to wonder whether out of your staggering post count of 3.572, you have actually ever made a worthwile contribution to any discussion here?! Well, let me give you the benefit of the doubt and say: about a dozen times, maybe. That leaves us with 3560 redundant, and often abusive posts.