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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Quoting Kevin:
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The users should have the option to "opt out" of any feature they don't want, need, or feel is incredibly stupid.
Hmmm...is this possible? Yes, it is possible...it's called locking your profiles.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 404 |
| | | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | You're all saying "Lock your profiles if you don't like it". Well, fine...they can do that but that permanently precludes them from making any future updates to cast & crew for those profiles that contain "credited as" entries that they have not accepted. Is that acceptable? I don't know  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have a better answer. KEN, please I am begging you, stop this insanity and give us some standards and criteria. We have far too many people engaging in the new Alaska Gold Rush and running to stake their claim. Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,722 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
for years we have told those who wanted their names linked too bad. You are free to do whatever you want locally but too bad. It meant if they wanted the name linked the could not download any updates period.
Now the shoe is on the other foot, but the answer is the same. If you don't want linked names, you don't have to use them. You just can't take advantage of what is online nor can you contribute, just like those who for years wanted their names to link couldn't do. It's your choice.
I still say if it's a matter of Ken spending time on it I would rather see him put that time elsewhere. Agree completely! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
You're all saying "Lock your profiles if you don't like it". Well, fine...they can do that but that permanently precludes them from making any future updates to cast & crew for those profiles that contain "credited as" entries that they have not accepted. Is that acceptable? I don't know . For the record, I was joking...hence the . | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I have a better answer.
KEN, please I am begging you, stop this insanity and give us some standards and criteria. We have far too many people engaging in the new Alaska Gold Rush and running to stake their claim.
Skip As I said in another post, Invelos...read Ken and Gerri...is encouraging users to use the feature. If they are doing that, they must believe that it is currently working as intended. For the moment, voters and screeners will decide what is and isn't proper documentation. I may not like it, but it is what it is. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
KEN, please I am begging you, stop this insanity and give us some standards and criteria. We have far too many people engaging in the new Alaska Gold Rush and running to stake their claim. The "new Alaska Gold Rush" as you like to call it is a feature that has become available with the release of DVDProfiler 3 about four months ago. The feature is even specifically adressed in the Contribution Rules. Thus, while it IS already adressed by Ken, I too would like an explicit statement from him to stop these nonsense discussions once and for all. It really gets annoying reading this stuff over and over again. | | | | Matthias |
| | Kevin | | Registered March 22, 2001 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 609 |
| | | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Quoting Kevin:
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The users should have the option to "opt out" of any feature they don't want, need, or feel is incredibly stupid.
Hmmm...is this possible? Of course its possible. To a large degree, once you get beyond basic functions, nearly every program lets you pick and choose which features you want to use, or not. Windows is a perfect example. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting Rifter:
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In light of the continuing argument over the use of the common name feature, and the fact that people are not providing proper documentation, and the lack of a proper source for such data, I want to go on record by requesting the following option in whatever method Ken comes up with for this feature(?):
I want the ability to turn off linking completely. I don't need it, and don't want to have to deal with it--at all! By that I mean, that with such a switch turned ON, no common name data is downloaded to me when I do weekly updates, and no common name data is uploaded BY me when I make a contribution.
There is no reason why this can't be built into the structure of this feature. A similar setup has been put into place with the Birth Year thing.
This might be workable if the feature only allowed you to d/l and u/l the 'credited as' portion of the name. Whether or not there is enoug demand for this is another issue completely.
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Now, I don't want to hear a lot of crap from those of you who want linking. That's fine, I get that you want it. I don't, and I know there are others out there who feel just as I do. So, if that's all you want to comment on, don't bother.
Really? Name 10. From what I remember, broken name linking was the biggest issue over at IVS. I can't recall a single person, other than you, who said they didn't want it. Don't be so bloody naive. Do you really think I'm the only one out of hundreds of thousands of users who feels this way? I won't give anybody else's name because I won't violate their privacy, but the person that introduced me to Profiler more than 5 years ago is one. In fact, he is even more ademant than I am about it -- to the point that he won't contribute anything and hasn't for a long time. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting Kathy:
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Quoting Kevin:
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The users should have the option to "opt out" of any feature they don't want, need, or feel is incredibly stupid.
Hmmm...is this possible?
Yes, it is possible...it's called locking your profiles. That isn't opting out at all. That is being forced into non-participation because to do otherwise means accepting a lot of stuff that isn't wanted, and not being able to contribute anything either. In any case, why am I being ridiculed and attacked for not needing this feature? I don't have any problem finding movies in my database. I don't need a crutch to tell me which movies this or that actor is in. I also know which actors are which without having to resort to birth years to tell them apart. Maybe I'm just smarter than the rest of you. Or maybe I just pay more attention. Actually, I think this boils down to those who want this most are the ones who don't really know what is in their collections. How many times have we heard people say they have dozens or even more that they haven't even seen yet or entered into the program? | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
You're all saying "Lock your profiles if you don't like it". Well, fine...they can do that but that permanently precludes them from making any future updates to cast & crew for those profiles that contain "credited as" entries that they have not accepted. Is that acceptable? I don't know . No, it isn't acceptable. At a minimum user level, I should ALWAYS be able to accept a download to get "as credited" data without having to also accept a lot of stuff that is useless to me. I should also be able to contribute, at a minimum user level, "as credited" data without being penalized because it doesn't have common name stuff added to it. Notice I'm talking about the basic functionality here, not whether any more than that is good, bad, or otherwise. Think of it as buying a car. There are certain basic features that come on the car. I should be able to go into the dealer and buy that car, and if I want to add other options I can do so - but its my choice. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't understand this feature - if you don't want to see common name information, simply hide the window that shows it. The cast list shows the "credited as" name anyway.
I also can't see how you can allow people to stop the download of common name information without permanently preventing them uploading any other cast information for that profile. That seems a big loss compared to simply hiding the data rather than not having it there at all. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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