I think Rifter had the idea in the other thread that we simply add a checkbox to the music credits that says "theme only" or something similar.
That way, instrumental themes still get the composer credit with the box ticked, and song themes still get a song writer credit, again with the box ticked.
If you wanted, you could also suggest that both ways appear as "Theme by" in the credit list of the profile (working in a similar way to "credited as").

Apologies if this has already been suggested, but I couldn't see it.

Hmmmmmmm

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Quoting Rifter:

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And that's your personal preference.  It does NOT coincide with the definitions given by the ruling bodies in the industry that give awards for such things as the Score, etc.

Can't you try to understand that what I'm saying would be for DVD Profiler purposes only? I'm not arguing with you about your (albeit narrow) definition of what constitutes a "song", I don't disagree with these "ruling bodies in the industry that give awards for such things". My proposal is just meant as a very simple way to deal with these credits within DVD Profiler, regardless of any changes in the rules and/or software. As I said before: I'll be happy to work with any changes Invelos might make in this department - anything will be an improvement. I just gave you a simple proposal which works right now, which is not prohibited by our contribution rules in any way, and which would end this whole debate immediately. I'm so taken with it that I'll say it again:

Any original piece of music written for a movie or TV show, but NOT written by the actual composer of the score, should be treated with a "song writer" credit.

Again: if we use this, we can retain all those rather significant "theme" writers, instead of losing these credits. This way of handling also shows a clear difference between the actual composer of the score ("composer") and the theme writer ("song writer"). For instance, if you were to look up Mike Post's credits, you could easily see where he actually scored something (listed as "composer"), or whether he's only contributed a theme (listed as "song writer"). I can't see any drawbacks to this method, and as long as Invelos doesn't provide another way of handling these credits, I will remain convinced that this is the best way to go, and will continue to use it for my own collection. Not just because I feel it's actually the intent of the rules - 'cause I do - but also because I value the contribution of these "theme writers" too much to just lose them.

Also I can't help but pointing out one more time: every "song" has a "composer". I really feel that a lot of the confusion stems from the fact that some people think that an instrumental piece of music is "composed", while they think of a song as "being written". The two parts that Rifter so adamantly claims make up a "song", are music and lyrics. The person that provides the music is the "composer" of the song. The person that provides the lyrics is the "lyricist". Following the logic displayed by some users, we should then only use the "song writer" for the lyricists of these songs, as the persons responsible for the music of these songs are all "composers". This is not how the "song writer" credit is meant to be used: we enter the "composer" (along with the lyricist) of an original song not as "composer" but as "song writer" in DVD Profiler.

If you understand that we don't credit the "composer" of say, the song 'Goldfinger' in DVD Profiler as a "composer", but as a "song writer", then you should also be able to understand that it's okay to enter the "composer" of say, the 'Sledge Hammer! Theme' in DVD Profiler as a "song writer". It's the exact same thing. Each and every original song for which we enter "song writer" credits into DVD Profiler, is COMPOSED by someone. So while someone really is the "composer" of a song, he's still credited in DVD Profiler as a "song writer", along with the lyricist. This is not different at all to the instrumental "theme" credits we're talking about. Like the "songs", they are all composed by someone. They just don't happen to have lyrics, but that doesn't change how we should handle the musical part of the composition. That still should be handled in the exact same way.

After thinking about this all night, James, i think I like it. Cool.

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